Is it possible to code an EA for MT4, which would trade on the real as in the tester using control points? - page 7

 
M2012K:

The interest here is how such a rough method can be simulated on a real chart, that's the point. So that owls will trade on the real chart according to the exact type - an approximate rough method for "to see if it's necessary at all".:)

Look at the opening prices.
 
M2012K:

To clarify a bit, owls are martin, in the first specified variant of runs owls observe bar opening(after start()), and order step is higher, in the second variant of run does not observe the bar, and order step is shallow or the same as in the first variant of runs. In each variant runs both on all ticks and on points. The trades are just allowed after a price change, sort of like you said, by a set minimum step towards the price change.

All the more, see lava, clava, balaclava ...


Moreover, see at that point, if your martin is launched at different times from the start of the test and pours, then its f*cked - unequivocally.

 

Happy Holidays everyone!

I'll try to play with the owl myself, maybe something similar will come out. :)

Thanks for the tips, good luck and profits to all of you!

 
Roman.:

Especially, see lava, clava, balaclava ...


Especially, see at the time that if your martin started from a different time from the start of the test and pours, then its f*cked - unequivocally.


Martin is more or less working normally, but decided to press on aggressive trading, you see greed pushes to such steps. :)

Previously tests on more or less calm set were the same on all ticks and check points, after some manipulations I managed to increase profit by times with the same past drawdown. But, I have built the set on ticks, because earlier it showed one result and decided to work with them, because it is faster, but, the new set with ticks gave a completely different picture, which is not comparable to life. :) So I decided to get to the bottom of the tester with checkpoints to work out what was the reason for the changed difference in runs.

 

I think it is possible to make a trade on the checkpoints on the real. Of course, this would not be for real trading, but for testing.

We should not trade on the zero bar, but on the first or second bar, where everything is already known.

 
Zhunko:

I think it is possible to make a trade on the checkpoints on the real. Of course, this would not be for real trading, but for testing.

We should not trade on the zero bar, but on the first or second bar, where everything is already known.

And we can open positions on the zero bar at any time. And all the signals from the first/second bar will be old and irrelevant. And again, there will be complaints that the Metaquotes with their "lying" tester have cheated, robbed and looted him.

The man can't understand that it's impossible to know the price on the zero bar in advance. The opening price is known only at the moment of opening. The more so about the High and Low prices that he is trying to trade with.

He does not want to hear all explanations that this testing model is used only for debugging of logic to the programmer, not to the trader for debugging of moments to enter the market. That's what he "should" do. This is just because the tester shows profit in such a way, but in a more close to the real cases, his Expert Advisor pours atrociously in the tester. So his inferences become that it's not the advisor that needs to be changed - the rules of trading - but trying to simulate trading on unknown data in advance. He should be on TNT's Battle of the Extra Sexes, not auto-trading.

 
You can open virtual ones. Take everything into account yourself. It's just like a tester.
 
Zhunko:
You can open virtual ones. You can open virtual ones. It's just like a tester.

Vadim, you know you can have a bald man in a barn...

He's got to be trading by the checkpoints. Meaning what? Means he wants to buy cheaper at the current bar, for example. We do not know this "cheaper" in the real world. But the tester knows that this is the Low of the zero bar and he sees this price. Simply because it is the history. And you know how dangerous it is to open a position on the market with the Low of the first bar. Only a limit order may be placed there.

Of course you can. But the programmer starts saying that the price does not catch the Limiters in the real, but in the tester, for some reason, he opens the position on the market with Low of the zero bar. He was cheated/scammed again...

He is in the tank.

 
artmedia70:

Vadim, you know you can at least have a bald man in a barn...

He's got to trade on the reference points. Meaning what? It means that he wants, for example, to buy cheaper on the current bar. We do not know this "cheaper" in the real world. But the tester knows that this is the Low of the zero bar and he sees this price. Simply because it is a history. And you know how dangerous it is to open a position on the market with the Low of the first bar. The only thing you can do is to put a limit value there.

Of course you can. But the topicstarter will start saying that the price does not catch the limits in real trading, and the tester, for some reason, opens the market with Low of zero bar. He was cheated/scammed again...

He's in the tank...



OK, let's say the test sees the future, then how does it work with the same results on both ticks and dots when watching the bar open? Does it stop looking at the future?

There is another inextinguishable (almost) :) regularity in the terminal - it is extremely easy to set it up to go down, but mirror-like hard to reverse, although in theory there should be equal chances for both sides (like in a casino).

 
M2012K:


OK, let's say the test sees the future, then how does it work with the same results on both ticks and dots when watching the bar open? Does it stop looking into the future?

There is another inextinguishable (almost) :) regularity in the terminal - it is extremely easy to set it up for withdrawal, but it is hard to reverse it, although in theory the chances should be equal for both sides.

1. If you open at opening prices in the tester, the opening prices are always there in any model, as well as in real life. As soon as you make an opening at prices that are not known in real life, but are available in the model on the checkpoints, then you will immediately see the difference in profits.

2) You can easily create at least 1000% monthly in the tester. But it will not work in real trading. It will be a 100% fraud.

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