Crisis: Don't we care? - page 9

 
BARS >> :

Machines accounted for 40% of all trading on the London Stock Exchange in 2006, and in some US markets the figure is as high as 80%.

I wonder how much of that % is losing.

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In general, these programs are made by a team of experts and must be good traders. Otherwise they would not have been used. I believe that these programs are quite different from what enthusiasts alone are trying to write in MQL. They probably do evaluation on all kinds of analysis, including fundamental and news analysis.

By comparison, Chess programs are now beaten by masters of the sport. These programs are written by a group of professionals, the algorithm was developed by highly skilled programmers together with chess masters. But try to make one of them by yourself.

In the 90s there were programmable microcalculators. One day I came across a little book called "Programming Games and Puzzles". It contained an example of how to program a calculator to move the chess king on the board to prevent an opponent with one piece advantage from checkmate. It was fun, but not for long. The King's play was poor, if it could be called a game.

Large financial organisations use well-established, customised programmes written by a group of professionals. But the attempts of enthusiastic singles to write an MQL Expert Advisor for working on Forex are very similar to programming a chess game on a micro calculator. In Forex, like in chess, there is a huge variety of combinations. Try how hard a chess program plays. A calculator can also see when the king is in danger and move a piece on the chessboard. That's how you compare. IMHO.

 
zxc >> :

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And in general, these programmes are put together by a team of specialists and probably do a good job of trading. Otherwise they wouldn't be used. I suppose these programs are quite different from what enthusiastic loners try to write in MQL. They probably do evaluation on all kinds of analysis, including fundamental and news analysis.

By comparison, Chess programs are now beaten by masters of the sport. These programs are written by a group of professionals, the algorithm was developed by highly skilled programmers together with chess masters. But try to make one of them by yourself.

In the 90s there were programmable microcalculators. One day I came across a little book called "Programming Games and Puzzles". It contained an example of how to program a calculator to move the chess king on the board to prevent an opponent with one piece advantage from checkmate. It was fun, but not for long. The calculator's king play was frankly weak, if it could be called a game at all.

Large financial organizations use specialized programs written by a group of professionals. And the attempts of single-player enthusiasts to write an MQL-advisor for working on Forex are very similar to programming a chess game on a microcalculator. In Forex, like in chess, there is a huge variety of combinations. Try how hard a chess program plays. A calculator can also see when the king is in danger and move a piece on the chessboard. That's how you compare. IMHO.

A "team of specialists" working at a constant profit is something fantastic - here is something else: a systematic approach and the use of the laws of "big numbers" ...... no one managed to calculate the market..... would have died out long ago.

There was a magazine called 'Currency Speculator' where, apart from technology, a lot of different organisational and psychological issues were discussed..... in one phrase: "I am not trying to impress with my mind, but only with my efforts and efforts".

 

imho different

we are talking about the number of transactions, not the volume

 
ortv >> :

imho different

we are talking about the number of trades, not the volume

that's what I meant :)

 
alexx_v >> :

Why isn't it healthy? normal, healthy, cyclical development, evolutionary spiral

what happened after the first crisis? - development and growth.

what happened after the second crisis? - more and faster development and growth.

what happened after the third crisis? - three guesses.

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more positive

That's the thing!

there is no growth at all!

the quotes are a witness to that....

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People! I want to do some testing.

But I have run into a little trouble.

I need info. namely statistics on Amer, Britos, Japs, Euros.

% rate.

How much unemployment.

Production index....

In general, I want the most comprehensive information that shows the state of the economy.

I have not found much information from google.

Please, give me a link to paradise information.

 
BARS >> :

That's the thing!

There's practically no growth!

quotes are a witness to that, too....

Where is there no growth? All markets were growing like crazy.

Forex cannot grow by definition.

 
timbo >> :

Where is there no growth? All markets have been going up like crazy.

Forex can't grow by definition.

If you think of growth as the quid dropping...

The economy hasn't grown much since the crisis.

Max 10%.

Our market is not considered. After 98, all securities are undervalued.

 
BARS >> :

If you consider growth, the fall of the quid...

The growth of the economy after the crisis is not much.

Max 10%.

Yep, and also a drop in the euro and a drop in the Australian dollar, and the Hong Kong dollar, and the yen...

ASX200 up 100% in four years, Hang Seng up 150%, Nikkei225 up 60%, FTSE100 up 50%.

 
timbo >> :

Yeah, and also the euro falling and the Australian dollar and the Hong Kong dollar and the yen falling...

ASX200 up 100% in four years, Hang Seng up 150%, Nikkei225 up 60%, FTSE100 up 50%.

Did you study economics?

Money is not going anywhere! All the movement is nothing but capital flows.

The Euro went down...

So it went up first, at the expense of the fall of the dollar !

What does the stock have to do with it? ????

Usually when there is a depression in bonds there is the same outflow of capital from the stock market, and investors transfer to the currency. Like we had in the early days of the war with the Georgians... all investors from abroad got excited and started selling our bonds and transferring them into quid. That was a real kick in the quid in those days.

We got too many quid in circulation.

If the whole country starts pumping dollars into the states, they will have a depression or even default.

We'll just crush them with masses, and they'll have even more inflation...

 
BARS писал(а) >>

Did you study economics?

Money doesn't go anywhere! And all the movement is nothing but capital flows.

The euro fell...

So it went up first, on account of the fall of the dollar!

What does the stock have to do with it? ????

Usually when there is a depression in bonds there is the same outflow of capital from the stock market, and investors transfer to the currency. Like we had in the early days of the war with the Georgians... all investors from abroad got excited and started selling our bonds and transferring them into quid. That was a real kick in the quid in those days.

We got too many quid in circulation.

If the whole of Russia starts dumping the dollar into the states, they will not just have a depression, they will default.

We'll just crush them with mass, and they will have even more inflation...

Scary... >>Bad!!!

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