Can an expert work for 2 months without a loss

 

I see a lot of mathematicians, programmers and just people who are into AutoTrading on this forum.
I would like to know your opinion on the following question. The Expert Advisor that Stinger and I received in the Strategy Tester during 2 months did not make a single losing trade, hence, it obtained a multi profit.

Initial deposit 1000.00
Net profit 2835129.90 Total profit 2835129.90 Total loss 0.00
Profitability Expected payoff 26251.20
Absolute drawdown 168.46 Maximum drawdown 509721.37 (28.62%) Relative drawdown 80.93% (5431.37)
Total trades 108 Short positions (% win) 74 (100.00%) Long positions (% win) 34 (100.00%)
Profitable trades (% of all) 108 (100.00%) Loss trades (% of all) 0 (0.00%)

Spreads are increased in brokerage companies now and that is why testing in demo mode is not possible till the end of holidays.

The question is.

1) When will be the drawdown, if since 1999-2006 it was 3-4 per year, and in 2007 - 12?

2) Is it reasonable to put it on real account at once?

3) Have there been any Expert Advisors that have made 100 trades without a loss?

 
Serg_ASV:

I see a lot of mathematicians, programmers and just people who are passionate about Autotrading on this forum.
I would like to know your opinion on the following question. The Expert Advisor that Stinger and I received in the Strategy Tester during 2 months did not make a single losing trade, hence, it obtained a multi profit.

Initial deposit 1000.00
Net profit 2835129.90 Total profit 2835129.90 Total loss 0.00
Profitability Expected payoff 26251.20
Absolute drawdown 168.46 Maximum drawdown 509721.37 (28.62%) Relative drawdown 80.93% (5431.37)
Total trades 108 Short positions (% win) 74 (100.00%) Long positions (% win) 34 (100.00%)
Profitable trades (% of all) 108 (100.00%) Loss trades (% of all) 0 (0.00%)

Spreads are increased in brokerage companies now and that is why testing in demo mode is not possible till the end of holidays.

The question is.

1) When will be the drawdown, if since 1999-2006 it was 3-4 per year, and in 2007 - 12?

2) Is it reasonable to put it on real account at once?

3) Are there any Expert Advisors that have made 100 trades without a loss?

oops ! it's a tester

sorry

no it is better to use a demo first!

you can also go to the Championship 2008!

 
Serg_ASV:

I see a lot of mathematicians, programmers and just people who are into autotrading on the forum.
I would like to get your opinion on the following question. The Expert Advisor that Stinger and I received on the tester during 2 months did not make a single losing trade, hence it turned out to be a multi profit.

Initial deposit 1000.00
Net profit 2835129.90 Total profit 2835129.90 Total loss 0.00
Profitability Expected payoff 26251.20
Absolute drawdown 168.46 Maximum drawdown 509721.37 (28.62%) Relative drawdown 80.93% (5431.37)
Total trades 108 Short positions (% win) 74 (100.00%) Long positions (% win) 34 (100.00%)
Profitable trades (% of all) 108 (100.00%) Loss trades (% of all) 0 (0.00%)

Spreads are increased in brokerage companies now and that is why testing in demo mode is not possible till the end of holidays.

The question is.

1) When will be the drawdown, if since 1999-2006 it was 3-4 per year, and in 2007 - 12?

2) Is it reasonable to put it on real account at once?

3) Have there been any Expert Advisors that have made 100 trades without loss?


1) that is the risk (no one knows)

2) There are some with small amount

3) yes, i have 365 trades and 364 (minus one) during 2 months, all briefly profitable from 40 to 60pp, but the drawdown is worse than yours (90%)

 

1) When is the drawdown if from 1999-2006 there were 3-4 per year and in 2007 it was 12?

hehe, i got the same one, i got two drawdowns in 2007 and i got times less profit than you

 
Serg_ASV:

1) When will the drawdown be, if from 1999-2006 it was 3-4 per year, and in 2007 it was 12?

2) Does it make sense to bet immediately on a real account?

3) Have there been any Expert Advisors in history, which have made 100 trades without loss?


1. No one will tell you.

2) It is very dangerous.

3. Was it done in the tester, on demo or real account? If we have ever encountered one, we should be afraid of them: these are either overoptimized EAs or trading without stops (or with very far stops), or both of them. But the only loss may be = margin call. Chasing an infinite profit factor will be very expensive.

 
YuraZ:
Serg_ASV:

1) When will the drawdown be, if from 1999-2006 it was 3-4 per year, and in 2007 it was 12?

2) Does it make sense to bet immediately on a real account?

3) Have there been any Expert Advisors that have made 100 trades without a loss?

oops ! it's a tester

sorry

no it is better to use a demo first!

you can bet on the Championship 2008!

Gross Profit:

21 511.45 Gross Loss: 8 007.76 Total Net Profit: 13 503.69
Profit Factor: 2.69 Expected Payoff: 94.43
Absolute Drawdown: 1 142.60 Maximal Drawdown: 5 371.21 (21.31%) Relative Drawdown: 27.53% (2 229.32)
Total Trades: 143 Short Positions (won %): 67 (98.51%) Long Positions (won %): 76 (90.79%)
Profit Trades (% of total): 135 (94.41%) Loss trades (% of total): 8 (5.59%)
This is the demo report (10 days) of the previous version, and I can say that all trades from the tester correspond to those on the demo. There is no intra-bar trading in Expert Advisor, which makes the tester closer to the real one. So in the new version too. That's why I'm interested in opinion about the possibility of losing and how much to bet on the real.
 
wenay:
Serg_ASV:
3) yes, I have 365 trades and 364 (minus one) in 2 months, all briefly profitable from 40 to 60pp, but the drawdown is worse than yours (90%)


What was your EA by nature - pips, scalper, or long term?
I'll tell you right off the bat - I'm a pure pipser.

 
Serg_ASV:
YuraZ:
Serg_ASV:

1) When will the drawdown be, if from 1999-2006 it was 3-4 per year, and in 2007 it was 12?

2) Does it make sense to bet on a real account at once?

3) Have there been any Expert Advisors that have made 100 trades without a loss?

oops ! it's a tester

sorry

no it is better to use a demo first!

you can bet on the Championship 2008!

Gross Profit:

21 511.45 Gross Loss: 8 007.76 Total Net Profit: 13 503.69
Profit Factor: 2.69 Expected Payoff: 94.43
Absolute Drawdown: 1 142.60 Maximal Drawdown: 5 371.21 (21.31%) Relative Drawdown: 27.53% (2 229.32)
Total Trades: 143 Short Positions (won %): 67 (98.51%) Long Positions (won %): 76 (90.79%)
Profit Trades (% of total): 135 (94.41%) Loss trades (% of total): 8 (5.59%)
This is the demo report (10 days) of the previous version, and I can say that all trades from the tester correspond to those on the demo. There is no intra-bar trading in Expert Advisor at all, which makes the tester closer to the real one. So in the new version too. I don't know why I'm interested in the new version.

If you bet 100 quid every fortnight you open a new account and in 2 months you will reap the rewards (1 win and all munches are covered))
 
Serg_ASV:
wenay:
Serg_ASV:
3) yes, I have 365 trades lying around and 364(minus one) this for 2 months, all briefly profitable from 40 to 60pp, but the drawdown is worse than yours (90%)


What was your EA by nature - pips, scalper, or long term?
I'll tell you right off the bat - I'm a pure scalper.

It was intended for long term trading (on 30 min), but turned out to be too tolerant on 5 min.
 
I do not understand how a pipser can raise the deposit 200 times in 100 steps?
 
wenay:
I do not understand how a Pipser can increase his deposit 200 times in 100 steps?

With a leverage of 1:500. The maximum risk is not the maximum, but the one that ensures stability (not a complete loss) during the whole history.

Reason: