What do you think of intuitive trading? - page 16

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Great, Plus. It's time to create a "Annals of our forum's wisdom" thread.

 
eugenk >> :
Gentlemen admins ! Sorry for the off-topic, but I just don't know where to ask this question. I myself have always been exclusively into robots. I think their admirers are the only category of thinking and seeking traders. And to ask such a question to the (REAL) intuitives themselves, is like asking housewives (strictly IMHO of course). So sabbath actually...

Folks, has anyone thought that it's a good idea to develop intuition and try to use it ? Just decided to speculate on the subject and I found it interesting. Judge for yourself. For example, a minute before a news release all the necessary information is already in the present. I.e. for example the figures on unemployment have already been calculated and are known. It has just not been announced. So, there is no harm in it from the point of view of physics. We do not receive information from the future.


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Once again, a thousand pardons for the offtops.

There's no physics of it, but there could be problems from a legal perspective. See insider information law.

 
To date, Mankind has formed an idea of the Universe, as a whole, more correctly than at the time of the first and second appeals. Indeed, the Earth is not flat and is not at the center of the universe. Indeed, the Earth, as one of the planets, revolves around the Sun. Indeed, the Sun is not located in the center of the Universe, but is one of the stars that make up the Galaxy. Indeed, the last of the energy transformations that support the activity of stars and, accordingly, the Sun and make it possible for life to exist on Earth and planets similar to it, is a thermonuclear reaction. Indeed, an intelligent race of earthlings is not the only one in the universe. Otherwise, most of your cosmogonic guesses are wrong. It is a delusion that your scientists believe in the existence of some, even if not yet discovered by them, unshakable laws of the Universe and in the constancy of world constants. So, the gravitational constant changes noticeably within your solar system, not to mention larger scales, which led to significant errors in your determination of the size of the Galaxy and distances to other galaxies, and caused the emergence of erroneous theories of a closed Universe, and this year theories the expanding universe. The idea of the universal three-dimensionality of space, on which your cosmogonic ideas are primarily based, is also erroneous. The world is chaotic, there is nothing immutable in it, including dimensionality. The dimensionality of space in the Universe fluctuates, changes smoothly over a very wide range. The best condition for the emergence of organic life is the dimension of space equal to Pi - (3.14159...). Significant deviations from this value are detrimental Significant deviations from this value are detrimental to wildlife. At present, the neighborhood of the solar system has a dimension of +3.00017 ... and the proximity of this number to the integer 3 has misled you. In the vicinity of your cluster of galaxies, a gravitational cyclone is drifting, having a dimension of -3.15 ... in the center, which can touch the edge of your Galaxy, destroying organic life on all planets on which protection measures will not be taken. In particular, this circumstance makes it necessary for you for Humanity to join the Coalition in a short time, at the latest after 65,000 years from the date of filing this appeal - from 1929 from the Nativity of Christ, so that the Coalition has time to assist Humanity in preparing for the cyclone. There are currently about 220,000 sentient races in your Galaxy that have already joined the Coalition and about 1,000 sentient races considering joining, including you. KOH asks you not to take the gravity cyclone report as an attempt to influence your answer. You are mistaken in resolving the issue of the origin of the solar system and life on Earth. The solar system arose from a dust cloud planted by the construction team of the Coalition in a region of the Universe that meets two basic requirements for the conditions for the development and emergence of organic life: - in a region sufficiently remote from other stars; — having a space dimension close to +Pi. You are mistaken in likening a reasonable race to a living individual, imagining decrepitude and death of Mankind as inevitable in some future. In the evolutionary process, new kinds of living beings come from some of the old kinds, and it should be your concern that the new kinds of intelligent races on Earth come from yours. It is this consideration that should determine the strategy for the development of an intelligent race. Meanwhile, according to the observations of CON, Humanity is not at all guided by such or a similar strategy, leaving its development to chance and directing all its efforts to satisfy short-term needs. You should not think that your delusions are random, transient. They are inevitable and stable due to the specifics of your thinking, a brief analysis of which is devoted to the next chapter. II The thinking of living matter and the very existence and development of living matter have a common basis. Both of these are countercurrents of entropy. In thinking, this countercurrent is expressed in the search for consistency. Your thinking is also characterized by the search for logic, but this ends the similarity of your thinking with the thinking characteristic of the vast majority of intelligent races that are members of the Coalition. This circumstance makes many members of the COH doubt the legitimacy of referring to you as an intelligent race. The basis of your logic is the concept of "yes" - "no", as if they really exist and repeatedly manifest themselves in a stepwise analysis of any complex issue. At the same time, the number of steps in the analysis is finite and most often very small, even when you are investigating a rather serious problem. The search for an answer comes down to choosing one of 2, where 2 is the number of steps, possible solutions, while the most correct solution most often lies between them. Your mathematicians will understand the following analogy: the solution to a problem that appears after solving partial yes-no questions is analogous to choosing one of the vertices of an N-dimensional cube, while the space of possible solutions is, to a first approximation, all points of an N-dimensional space. If you don't specify, then the real dimension of the solution space is most often defined incorrectly by you and very rarely is actually an integer. Our attitude towards you as an intelligent race is also hampered by the following considerations. As far as we can judge, any scientific or legal law, the meaning of a discovery or invention, the essence of any important thought can be expressed by you in a phrase containing at most 100 words from a dictionary of 50,000 words, including mathematical and other conventions. The total number of possible phrases from such a dictionary is a very modest value, equal to 50,000 to the power of 100. If we leave only phrases that have linguistic diagnostic consistency, then their number will be reduced to 50,000 to the power of 50.5. If now we discard phrases in which the words are grammatically connected, but their content does not even have the appearance of meaning, then the number of outwardly meaningful phrases will be reduced to 50,000 to the power of 25. The screening of false from true statements, according to the most overestimated estimates, is a list of no more than 3 , 9x10 to the power of 37 statements that you can make and would correspond to reality. Meanwhile, we know representatives of the animal world on various planets, capable of giving no less variety of unconditional reactions, quite adequate to reality, to various combinations of external stimuli, which, nevertheless, can be called reasonable. Apparently, it would be more correct to consider Mankind not as a rational, but as a potentially intelligent race, since limited thinking is still not innate in you. By nature, the human brain is endowed with a thinking apparatus no less perfect than the thinking organs of representatives of many intelligent races in the Universe. But the development of your thinking from the very beginning went on an absolutely wrong path. At the beginning of the formation of the thinking process, the ability to think lies in the potential for a diverse reaction to the same informational impact. On the graph, hereinafter referred to as the logical foundation, the force or perceptibility of the reaction to the information impact is plotted vertically, the acceptability, pleasantness of this reaction horizontally to the right, and its unacceptability, unpleasantness to the left of 0. Like everything in nature that has not yet been processed by the activity of the mind that counteracts entropy, this graph is chaotic, the bursts of the curve on it are explained by purely physiological threshold effects. The self-education of the mind consists not only in the construction of a complex system of logical thinking, but also in the processing and improvement of the foundation on which this system is based. As the example of numerous intelligent races shows, the restructuring of the logical foundation according to the given scheme most corresponds to the requirements of successful knowledge of nature. It should be noted that we know in the Universe several intelligent races that have a rectilinear structure of the logical foundation with branches going to infinity. They make up their own association of races, they are not included in the Coalition, since we could not find a common language with them. The fundamental difference between their thinking and ours lies in the fact that the area of the figure describing the logical foundation is finite in ours, while in their thinking it is infinite. We even find it difficult to imagine how they perceive being, and we cannot understand what keeps them alive under the furious blows of positive and negative reactions to information impacts that go into unlimited infinity. The raw logical foundation of a person has two noticeable bursts to the right and left of zero and several small ones. His research shows that a person did not have and does not have any obstacles to adjust his logical foundation according to the scheme generally accepted in the Universe. Meanwhile, the mind of man from the very beginning developed fundamentally erroneously, was guided by these outbursts and now has its own kind of logical foundation. These high bursts to the left and right of zero are what you call "no" and "yes" and without which you cannot imagine the phenomenon in principle. Meanwhile, only the force of habit speaks in you. The purposeful splitting of the logical foundation into the concepts of "no" and "yes" is the biggest obstacle to your knowledge of being. Moreover, the theoretical developments of logical thinking that you have undertaken instead of correcting the error only deepen it. Theoretical logical systems operate only with refined concepts of "yes" and "no", excluding other variants of logical reactions. These developments are a step backward even in comparison with the logical foundation of human thinking, presented in the previous diagram, since the area of the figure describing the logical foundation becomes equal to zero instead of the final one. Using your mathematical language, you can say that your logic is based on a discrete foundation instead of a continuous one, and the most primitive function is taken as the basis, which has only two values. This leads to the inevitable conclusion that if your method of perceiving being can be called thinking, then this system of thinking is the most primitive of all possible. The discretization of logic forces you to extend the principle of discretization to everything that exists. So, the natural series of numbers, which in essence is possible, but a very artificial mathematical trick that has very little in common with real nature, has become for you the basis of those basics of mathematics, with which the vast majority of representatives of Mankind are only familiar. You strive to calculate everything in a row and at the same time are unable to accurately convey, for example, information about the strength of the wind, unless you express it numerically in points or pressure per square meter or mile, and these three numbers expressing the same wind strength , will not cause you the same reaction until you do additional calculations and make sure that they really indicate the same thing. Arithmetic calculation has led you to the appearance of puzzles caused not by the reality of the world, but by the primitiveness of your thinking. Meanwhile, you are wasting your energy trying to solve them and reconcile them with the picture of the world that appears to you, like real mysteries of nature. For example, the arrangement of rational and irrational numbers on a real scale. The discretization of logic forces you to break up the whole perceived into separate facts, phenomena, concepts and categories, drawing artificial boundaries between them. The discretization of logic and the principle of counting force you to assume that the number of attributes of an object is finite and give names to each of them. This gives rise to the highly dubious possibility of separating one feature from another—a device you call abstraction. Movement along the steps of abstraction to more and more general features is considered by you to be the only true way of knowing the truth, while this movement is a path that leads away from the truth, into darkness. It is no coincidence that all your abstract constructions, called philosophical systems, are mutually contradictory, although they are based on the same logic. Step by step, plunging into darkness along the steps of abstraction, step by step losing touch with the real world, philosophical systems gradually lose their orientation and reach the point that at the dead end of this movement, to the meaningless question of the primacy of matter or spirit, they give diametrically opposite answers. Logic, based on "yes" - "no", forces you to always and everywhere draw boundaries between various complexes of features of objects, and because of the weakness of this logic, entropy dominates the process of drawing boundaries, and they are drawn very chaotically, illogically even from the point of view of your logic, which is especially evident by the unequal arrangement of them in the words of different human languages. On drawing these chaotic boundaries is based your way of communication, which you consider one of the highest achievements of the human mind. The primitiveness of the language, as a way of exchanging information, is already shown by us in counting the number of possible meaningful and correct phrases. Language, as the main carrier of information, itself, in turn, affects your thinking, forcibly forcing it to more clearly adhere to the principle of discreteness. Therefore, in particular, your ethics and aesthetics contain many paired concepts that oppose as logical thesis and antithesis. Your social and personal morality is governed by rules polarized by the concepts of "good" - "evil", "life" - "death", "gain" - "loss", "recognition" - "non-recognition", "love" - "hate" other things in the same vein. Even your own observation does not help you, that the meaning of these diametrical concepts is different for different peoples, and even for one people it changes over time. And now, considering yourself a highly civilized Mankind, you, even in a jury trial, determine the guilt or innocence of the defendant on the principle of "yes" - "no", which may still be acceptable for deciding the fate of one person, but cannot at all be acceptable for deciding the fate of peoples. But even there the same principle "yes" - "no" prevails during national referendums or voting in parliaments. Moreover, discrete logic allows you to trust the fate of peoples and Mankind to several individuals. In international politics, such polar concepts are for you the concepts of "state of peace" and "state of war", and a sharp transition from one to the other, inherent only in your logic and contrary to nature, you consider inherent in nature and implement with truly insane determination. The recent world war and, obviously, the looming new world war testify that the rapid development of technical civilization has not made you wiser either. However, with regard to your historical development, we can make predictions with great difficulty precisely because of this sharp discreteness and almost instantaneous transitions of your social structures and foreign policy states from one to another. For several thousand years, the KOH has been observing almost uninterrupted wars waged by you among yourselves, and in the natural course of historical processes, your wars could only subside after 12,000 years, but the KOH cannot even claim that these wars will not stop in the next 100 years. Only the last consideration allows us to consider this appeal not hopeless, for it is natural that an agreement between Mankind and the Coalition can be reached only after the elimination of the warlike habits of Mankind. III KOH is forced to be skeptical about Humanity also for two reasons, generated, however, by the same primitiveness of logic, namely, the attitude towards technical civilization and the fear of the death of the individual. The development of technology in itself is, of course, beneficial and encourages the KOH to treat Mankind favorably as an intelligent race. But the fetishization of technology, and even more so the assignment of such a role to it that it becomes the main characteristic of your civilization, alarms us. The history of mankind has developed chaotically. When individual regions of the Earth did not have a direct communication connection, Mankind, in fact, set up several experiments to create various types of civilizations. Some of them were approved by the KOH. Unfortunately, different civilizations could not peacefully coexist when, in the process of development and expansion, there appeared opportunities for direct contacts between them. As a rule, a more rude and primitive and, therefore, more cruel civilization destroyed a more developed and humane one, in order to, in turn, be destroyed by an even more rude one. At present, the most primitive of all - machine civilization - dominates the Earth. It has embraced all of Humanity, keeps it under its control and will not allow a new civilization to arise in the future, unless it destroys itself, or unless Humanity takes control over the development of the world machine civilization into its own hands and does not gradually transform it into a different kind of civilization, much more more necessary to an intelligent race. The UNH hopes that the impetus for such a restructuring can be provided by this appeal and all the help that the UNH can provide to Humanity, if this help is needed and Humanity expresses its corresponding wish. It should be noted that local civilizations, whose centers were the city of Apuradhapura at the time of the first appeal and the city of Tkaatzetkoatl at the time of our second appeal, corresponded much more to the needs of Mankind than modern machine civilization, and as one of the options for its assistance, KOH can offer Mankind the most detailed a description of these civilizations in order to take them as possible models. One of the most important signs for the systematization of a race as a reasonable one is that each of its representatives puts the activity of the collectivized mind above all else. Accordingly, man, as a rational being, must above all put the development of the mind of Mankind. Human functions come down to taking in information from the previous generation of people, distorting it with their own random guesses, and passing the distorted information on to the next generation. Chaotic fluctuations in the movement of the thought of a rational society are necessary so that after the historical screening, zigzags of the movement of thought will certainly be found, corresponding to the zigzags of the change in the objective picture of being. The latter has an unpredictable direction, while the spectrum of thinking of any individual throughout his life maintains a constant direction. It follows from this that the change of generations is necessary for rational beings, and in particular people, not only as living beings for the preservation and development of the mind. Consequently, the hopes of many representatives of Mankind that contact with alien intelligent races will help them solve the problem of immortality are fundamentally disastrous. On the other hand, we cannot deny Humanity the appropriate assistance, no matter how destructive it may be for the mind, since each rational race has the right to independently decide its own destiny. KOH does not withdraw from contacts with Mankind and its individual representatives to discuss any issues and to provide positive assistance in any problems of a private nature. But the main purpose of this appeal is a warning about the danger threatening Mankind and a proposal for the entry of Mankind into the Coalition. The Charter of the Coalition and the description of its structure and activities can be transferred to Mankind for familiarization without any additional conditions at its first request, promulgated by the government of any of the four largest states or the Secretariat of the League of Nations. If Mankind is inclined to the idea of joining the Coalition, it will first have to do the work of restructuring the logical foundation of its thinking according to the scheme of the base of thinking generally accepted in the Coalition. This requirement is dictated not only by the fact that the flawed type of thinking now inherent in Humanity would cause a progressive inferiority complex in Humanity, who joined the Coalition, but first of all, because of the fundamentally different types of thinking, the races of the Coalition and Humanity would not be able to exchange the necessary information. , perhaps only at the most superficial level, as exemplified involuntarily by the present appeal. Mankind would be useless for the Coalition, as well as the Coalition for Mankind. Without Humanity restructuring the logical foundation of its thinking, we are powerless even to help you protect yourself from the cyclone. It seems to us that Mankind will spend from 60 to 70 thousand years to work on the restructuring of the logical foundation, which, in view of the danger threatening Mankind, is a critical period. Therefore, this work should be started now. The original course of continuous logic and detailed instructions for the gradual education of the skills of continuous logical thinking in the next generations of the KOH undertakes to transfer at the first request of Mankind, but not before the different peoples of Mankind stop senseless strife and agree with the concentration of efforts in this long process of restructuring thinking, because acquaintance of one of the warring peoples with the principles of continuous-logical thinking would be analogous to handing him an absolute weapon and in the end would lead to the death of Mankind. The present, third, address of KOH to Humanity is the last one. The absence of a response within 50 years will be regarded as evidence that Mankind refuses to join the Coalition. Authorized by the Coalition Coalition Observer Detachment
 
a total bogeyman - and an obscurantist, too....
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Bronnikov forerunner!!!

 

is this a humour thread?

Or did the moderators' intuition fail because of the thread's venerable age?

;)

 
Mathemat:

Great, Plus. Time to create a "Annals of our forum's wisdom" thread.

The annals have stalled.

And pearls too.

Happy New Year!

;)

Time to start celebrating...

 

Why untie the knot? It's easier to chop. History has known cases of splitting nuts with delicate objects.

But irrational. And I wouldn't personally vouch for stability.

 
I confess to being too lazy to read it all, but one thing I do know is that intuition is the ability of the head to think with its arse...go!!!!!! Anybody know how to do that???? :)))))))))))))))) I confess I don't always get it right..... Or rather I can't teach a car what I see, but that's another song....
 
nikelodeon:
But one thing I do know is that intuition is the ability of the head to think with its arse !!!!!!
The essence of yoga. In forea mono ass... teach you to think with your head.
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