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A short PS: I got that email that is trying to sell the endpoint FFT that is supposedly tic_tac's. Trying to pull that "sales" to TSD will result in posts deleted and users with "just PM" me type of posts banned
Get this, i received the same email so I decided to do some online research and here is what i found.
You will find that the solicitation to sell the indicator is found in at least three separate online portals. I won't post their address here but if you perform a google search for the term "end-point fft" you will find them
Here is the info of the seller on one:
Price: $ 250.00 USD Listing Began: 7/27/10
Listing ID: 146132 Seller Info jalyn555
Item Location: New York, NY 584346, United States (See: MAP)
Phone: (854) 932-2135
Fax: 57657-4874-687
Here is the info of the seller on the second:
State: California City: Firestone Park Zip code: 90001 Category: Business oportunities
Here is the info on the third:
Item #: 940752
Posted by: jalyn
Location: Astana,Kazakhstan Astana,Kazakhstan Zikbay Store: jalyn.zikbay.com
Phone: +748526384 Date Entered: Friday, July 16, 2010
Fax: +785858521 Expiration: Tuesday, June 06, 2079
Email: joinmeandprofit@gmail.com Type: For Sale
Category: Other URL: jalyn Website
So, the seller, tic-tac or Jalyn lives in New York, California and Astana, Kazakhstan in the same time.
The content of the sale pitch is identical in all three postings and goes something like this:
like a money machine that churns out pips for you - consistently.
The best part is, it's surprisingly simple. No one ever developed an indicator that's so easy to use.
Within a few painless minutes, you can easily apply it to make your next winning trade.
And understand this...
FFT END POINT INDICATOR will reveal some of the most profitable trading setups - that only a small elite
group of successful professional traders are privy to. And believe me, they don't want you to know!
$$$$ YOU CAN TOO ! ! !The price ranged from $250-$500
Now, I am not against individuals exchanging their expertise for monetary compensation and if indeed tic-tac wishes to sell his indicator, he has the right to do so and I would not have any issues. My main concern is the inconsistency of the information provided which does not exactly reflect credibility.
So tic-tac, if it is not you who is selling the indicator you may want to check into this cause whomever is selling it is not doing you any good.
Cheers,
...
I doubt it is TicTac...someone else got a hold of same indicator...and tried to sell it...
It's scam from guy who created Muralert indy (another scam), he desn't have End Point FFT, he only renamed some other indicator as End Point FFT and trying to sell it for $250 or $500.
scammers
Get this, i received the same email so I decided to do some online research and here is what i found.
You will find that the solicitation to sell the indicator is found in at least three separate online portals. I won't post their address here but if you perform a google search for the term "end-point fft" you will find them
Here is the info of the seller on one:
Price: $ 250.00 USD Listing Began: 7/27/10
Listing ID: 146132 Seller Info jalyn555
Item Location: New York, NY 584346, United States (See: MAP)
Phone: (854) 932-2135
Fax: 57657-4874-687
Here is the info of the seller on the second:
State: California City: Firestone Park Zip code: 90001 Category: Business oportunities
Here is the info on the third:
Item #: 940752
Posted by: jalyn
Location: Astana,Kazakhstan Astana,Kazakhstan Zikbay Store: jalyn.zikbay.com
Phone: +748526384 Date Entered: Friday, July 16, 2010
Fax: +785858521 Expiration: Tuesday, June 06, 2079
Email: joinmeandprofit@gmail.com Type: For Sale
Category: Other URL: jalyn Website
So, the seller, tic-tac or Jalyn lives in New York, California and Astana, Kazakhstan in the same time.
The content of the sale pitch is identical in all three postings and goes something like this:
The price ranged from $250-$500
Now, I am not against individuals exchanging their expertise for monetary compensation and if indeed tic-tac wishes to sell his indicator, he has the right to do so and I would not have any issues. My main concern is the inconsistency of the information provided which does not exactly reflect credibility.
So tic-tac, if it is not you who is selling the indicator you may want to check into this cause whomever is selling it is not doing you any good.
Cheers,Funnny you posted this I got this in my email last night. You know if these idiots spent as much time learning how to trade as they do scamming they might be able to make a pip or two.
"tictac's FFT end point indicator from this forum https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/179803
This indicator is so powerful - it's almost unstoppable. Whether price's rising or falling, it works like a money machine that churns out pips for you - consistently.
The best part is, it's surprisingly simple. No one ever developed an indicator that's so easy to use. Within a few painless minutes, you can easily apply it to make your next winning trade.
And understand this...
FFT END POINT INDICATOR will reveal some of the most profitable trading setups - that only a small elite group of successful professional traders are privy to. And believe me, they don't want you to know!
$$$$ YOU CAN TOO ! ! !
for more information:"
O Circular Movement
Dear All
Go back to the 1st post and when i look at the template it seems so simple
You guys really have to go back and just look at the pict and logically deduce how tic tac determines how markets go up and down
Extraction of market cycles of a single pair will always be less accurate ...Why?
Just as in a deck of cards you play with all of them ...each card is unique so is the fx market and various pairs which form part of the whole .The fx market i believe is a circular cyclic movement for a lack of a better term
O <<< is the best way to describe FX
I am currently researching on the above made 478% live ac in 3 mths ... i would get the highs and lows of all the pairs .....rarely using 1 full lot..so thats a lot of pips ...but recently i mean a month back the cycles changed or something did and all of a sudden my system came to a screaching halt...that lead me to think on market cycles more deeply and further thinking leads me to believe and try out the above theory of "O circular movements"
will post results here as i get them
Looking forward to feedback from some of the bright minds like simba, crod, igor, xard and others ..Feel humbled with the amount of info some of you hold here
Rgds
L&M
Macd ma
Try these two indicators they are a very similar setup to the indicators on this thread.
ma_hilo.ex4
macd_hiilo.ex4
Scam confirmed!
Members,
I have just confirmed the scam is being perpetrated by a person named Murat Ibrayev in Kazakhstan. This has been confirmed by colleagues of mine who have fell victim to this person.
According to my sources the perpetrator will lour potential buyers by providing screen-shots of the indicator in action. These screen shots will show recent price action, thus bolstering credibility.
The perpetrator will then indicate that he is offering the indicator at a discounted price of $300 (discounted from $500 for a limited time). The potential buyer is then able to negotiate lower purchase price (as low as $125).
Once the price as agreed upon, the perpetrator then will request a money transfer via Western Union promising to deliver the indicator once the funds are collected.
Unfortunately, Mr. Ibrayev collects the funds and never sends anything to the victim.
Please be ware and spread the word.
Regards,
People
Before falling into traps like the "This indicator is so powerful - it's almost unstoppable" , please ask. Ask around, ask here (what the hell else is the purpose of forums if not to find out things we do not know) ask the inventor of something, for example. Denis Meyers, which invented the end point FFT, never claimed that it is any kind of a wonder indicator.
A useful link (Denis Meyers' site) with a load of information about end point fft : The End Point Fast Fourier Transform System
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Attaching just one document you can find there with description and test results. Listen to the man. After all, he invented the bloody thing. I repeat : he never ever claimed that it is any kind of a wonder
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Pip...Old News:)
Mladen...But TicTacs charts looked so good:)...
P.S:...Pip...you look like young Lenin...before his demise....
I could not care less how some charts looks like. No chart can substitute ones own thinking and ones own knowledge
It does not matter what the charts are "showing". The matter is that big words and big claims seem to attract people. Ed Thorp wrote in one of his articles that they have a system that brings 8-9% percent annually, but it brings it constantly (all of you heard about "Statistical arbitrage") The only problem is that no one wants it since it is "not profitable enough" nowadays
:).
The document I attached about end point FFT was posted there in 1999. It was 11 years ago and still people think it is a kind of a wonder. Come on. Let's get serious and stop believing to "get rich in a 2 days" promises. Otherwise there are always going to be scammers and thieves and pickpocketing code renamers because they are simply invited to do whatever they do - invited by the "believers"
Pip...Old News:)
Mladen...But TicTacs charts looked so good:)...
P.S:...Pip...you look like young Lenin...before his demise....