How to use Support and Resistance Effectively - page 11

jerrydeng
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jerrydeng  
bubble:

The first thing i would ask you to do if you wish to participate in this thread is to do a google search on s/r to get a feel for the basics ,sites such as investopia will give you enough info to be able to participate, all of the trades will be taken from the hourly chart using the higher timeframes for confirmation techniques and the lower charsts for entry techniques,take some time over the weekend and start with the hourly charts mark some peaks and troughs and see how they interact with the higher charts, dont use any indicators.

bubble

Hi, bubble,now I know how to confirm the S & R in H1 & H4, but how can i enter the market on the lower chart?? can you teach me?

thanks

jerrydeng
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jerrydeng  

and how do you judge a trend is up or down? with what? indicator?

jerrydeng
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jerrydeng  

OK. thanks.

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nosam
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nosam  

I think we are in channel, wait for break out and re-test of upper or lower S/R channel.

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jerrydeng
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jerrydeng  
mas0n:
I think we are in channel, wait for break out and re-test of upper or lower S/R channel.

yes. i think you are right.

newt
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newt  

different timeframe has different trend

at the point of this posting it's a downtrend for scalpers...

use trendline to identify support/resistence

Malcik
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Malcik  
bubble:
The upper line on your chart was resistance, at the time you posted that area had already been tested twice the trend on the 240 is up, the trend on the daily has changed over the last few days to up what does this tell you (the trend is up) so taking this trade would be countertrend.

Here is a rundown of the order to confim a trade.

Wait for a market turning point(price to turn down/up from a peak or trough.

Check the trend in 2 timeframes higher.

Trade only in the direction of the trend.

If you take a counter trend trade make sure that you are 100%+ sure you know what you are doing.

Mark the peak at the turning point as s/r check higher charts to confirm, the more that match the better if s/r only matches trading timeframe but is with the trend thats fine.

Do not enter trade immediately ,if you think the price is running away from you before you entered , think again, its a trap , you will end up watching the price retrace to retest.

Do not trade breakouts (breakouts are a weak form of trading), you will lose more than you will win.

REMEMBER BUYERS ENTER THE MARKET AT SUPPORT

SELLERS ENTER THE MARKET AT RESISTANCE.

Hi bubble,

Thanks for continuation of this thread. However, I'm a bit confused right now. Earlier you said (or I understood it the way) that:

You waited for a market turning point (for example for a top)

You marked the _last support before the peak_

You waited for the price to break out back to the downside

You waited for 1st retracement as a test that the role reversal works and that the support now becomes a resistance before a price's way down

You waited for the _2nd retracement_ for short entry

(Reverse for long entries)

Now you are saying that:

You wait for a market turning point (for example for a top)

You mark the _peak itself as resistance_

You wait for the _1st retracement_ for short entry

So now I'm just confused which one of these you actually follow... or do you trade both of them?

Thanks again for putting your time into this thread. I can't wait till next lesson.

jerrydeng
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jerrydeng  

Thanks, bubble. I'm looking forward your next lessons. One suggestion, Could you post some charts as example to show us how to decide a real trade? I thinks it will be more clear than by words.

RickW00716
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RickW00716  
bubble:
The upper line on your chart was resistance, at the time you posted that area had already been tested twice the trend on the 240 is up, the trend on the daily has changed over the last few days to up what does this tell you (the trend is up) so taking this trade would be countertrend.

Here is a rundown of the order to confim a trade.

Wait for a market turning point(price to turn down/up from a peak or trough.

Check the trend in 2 timeframes higher.

Trade only in the direction of the trend.

If you take a counter trend trade make sure that you are 100%+ sure you know what you are doing.

Mark the peak at the turning point as s/r check higher charts to confirm, the more that match the better if s/r only matches trading timeframe but is with the trend thats fine.

Do not enter trade immediately ,if you think the price is running away from you before you entered , think again, its a trap , you will end up watching the price retrace to retest.

Do not trade breakouts (breakouts are a weak form of trading), you will lose more than you will win.

REMEMBER BUYERS ENTER THE MARKET AT SUPPORT

SELLERS ENTER THE MARKET AT RESISTANCE.

This was such a good post I printed it and have it next to my computer!!

I noticed today (GBP/USD)...4hr trend up...I checked 15 and 30 min charts and saw pin bars at support(support was role reversal...prior swing high on 1hr chart and congestion area on 4hr chart)...I thought this would be a good place to buy but maybe place a sell target at prior resistance since it seems price has had a hard time recently breaking the recent tops.

Bubble...please critique my analysis...don't spare my feelings!! I really want to learn!

Thanks

jerrydeng
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jerrydeng  
bubble:
Well done Rick your on the right track .

The only thing i would say is that on the 60min chart there was a GAP between price and role reversal support which as you know from my previous posts indicates a fast move up also that nice double bottom formed which was the second attempted retest which fell short again of support creating the gap.

The gap to support was around 25 pips so add a few pips on to that and you have your stop , less risky way to enter is to wait for some upside momentum after the double bottom or put a stop entry above the previous high.

One other thing your combination of timeframes is a bit off , in a previous post i gave the combination of timeframes to use.

A very nice trade for over 100 pips

bubble

very good analysis,bubble, today i finally know what is gap trend. hope study more different scenarios soon.