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simeon.malev  
Mr. Mansour Babasafary, will you explain to me how this is done
yesterday 19:00 /GMT+ 2/ in live trading the expert lost a trade on EUR/USD and today on the new version 1.70 of the backtest this same trade is profitable!
Marcell Szeles  

Noticed about the quite the same thing on GBPUSD, interested to see an explanation.


Marcell Szeles  
simeon.malev #:
Mr. Mansour Babasafary, will you explain to me how this is done
yesterday 19:00 /GMT+ 2/ in live trading the expert lost a trade on EUR/USD and today on the new version 1.70 of the backtest this same trade is profitable!

Can you show the deals (open and close)?
Which broker?

simeon.malev  
Marcell Szeles #:

Can you show the deals (open and close)?
Which broker?

IC market

Marcell Szeles  
Hopefully we'll get an explanation from the developer tomorrow.
SSGGLL  
西蒙·马列夫 # :
Mansour Babasafary 先生,您能向我解释一下这是如何完成的吗?
昨天 19:00 /GMT+ 2/ 在实时交易中,专家在 EUR/USD 上造成了追加交易,而今天在新版本 1.70 的回测中,同样笔交易是有利可图的!

我这里也发现了同样的情况,澳元兑美元1月5日09:30出现的一笔多单在实盘账户中是亏损的,但是在历史数据测试中它反过来变成了一笔空单,它的结果是盈利的。

SSGGLL  
I have also found the same situation here, where a multiple transaction between the Australian dollar and the US dollar on January 5th at 09:30 resulted in a loss in the actual account,

But in historical data testing, it turned into a blank order, and its result was profitable.
Mansour Babasafary  
Hello friends
Thank you for your attention
Yes, we discover new patterns and add them to the expert.
If you don't want to, that's fine, I won't add templates to Expert either.
For me, it is easier not to update Expert.
We can work with the same patterns for years.

But our team discovers new patterns, patterns that have not been added to Expert yet, and we use them. We also remove old patterns.
Making an expert is not easy.
The strategy needs to be updated.
PB1980  
Marcell Szeles #:

Noticed about the quite the same thing on GBPUSD, interested to see an explanation.


Hello, I do not understand, how these trades can be 100% reversed in the "old" 1.6 Version compared to the new 1.7 version.

The Entries and Exits price levels and also dates and times are the same, only the directions are completely different: One trade changed from buy to sell, and the second changed from sell to buy. For me it is not comprehensible with an explanation of new candle patterns. A candle formation is normally clearly bullish or bearish, and cannot be reversed so easily at the same price and time location....?

Do I miss or misunderstand something?

Marcell Szeles  
Mansour Babasafary #:
Hello friends
Thank you for your attention
Yes, we discover new patterns and add them to the expert.
If you don't want to, that's fine, I won't add templates to Expert either.
For me, it is easier not to update Expert.
We can work with the same patterns for years.

But our team discovers new patterns, patterns that have not been added to Expert yet, and we use them. We also remove old patterns.
Making an expert is not easy.
The strategy needs to be updated.
No worries mate, we just needed an explanation - It's all fine when it's properly explained.

It seems like some kind of pattern was swapped, because when I compare v1.6 and 1.7 on my end I can see opposite trades in the history: Sometimes when it's a loss in 1.7, it's a win a 1.6 and vice versa.
Marcell Szeles  
PB1980 #:

Hello, I do not understand, how these trades can be 100% reversed in the "old" 1.6 Version compared to the new 1.7 version.

The Entries and Exits price levels and also dates and times are the same, only the directions are completely different: One trade changed from buy to sell, and the second changed from sell to buy. For me it is not comprehensible with an explanation of new candle patterns. A candle formation is normally clearly bullish or bearish, and cannot be reversed so easily at the same price and time location....?

Do I miss or misunderstand something?

Well, from my understanding there was a set of patterns and indicators which might have been incorrectly a "short" in the old version, now it's "long" - might be corrected.
Please check my previous comment. I see this happened couple times in the backtest - sometimes wins turned to be losses also with the update.

Not sure if Mansour can give you/us an exact explanation on what's happened with that specific trade, what changed to what - so everyone can calm down :)

simeon.malev  
Mansour Babasafary #:
Hello friends
Thank you for your attention
Yes, we discover new patterns and add them to the expert.
If you don't want to, that's fine, I won't add templates to Expert either.
For me, it is easier not to update Expert.
We can work with the same patterns for years.

But our team discovers new patterns, patterns that have not been added to Expert yet, and we use them. We also remove old patterns.
Making an expert is not easy.
The strategy needs to be updated.

the idea of any expert advisor in my opinion is to replace manual trading of a given strategy

through software and save us time standing in front of computers and trading manually, in my opinion changing patterns and introducing new ones shows that the strategy is not time tested and proven and is constantly changing which is not good for the account and will not lead to no good!

Mansour Babasafary  
Marcell Szeles #:
No worries mate, we just needed an explanation - It's all fine when it's properly explained.

It seems like some kind of pattern was swapped, because when I compare v1.6 and 1.7 on my end I can see opposite trades in the history: Sometimes when it's a loss in 1.7, it's a win a 1.6 and vice versa
Yes, exactly
We have not changed losing trades to profits.
In many cases, there have been trades that were profitable in the old version, but as the patterns changed, they turned into losses.
We try to discover the best patterns.
Mansour Babasafary  
simeon.malev #:

the idea of any expert advisor in my opinion is to replace manual trading of a given strategy

through software and save us time standing in front of computers and trading manually, in my opinion changing patterns and introducing new ones shows that the strategy is not time tested and proven and is constantly changing which is not good for the account and will not lead to no good!

Patterns are constantly changing.
You cannot trade with patterns from 10 years ago.
So it is natural to update the patterns.
These updates do not mean that the expert is being tested and is not ready.
In the best of circumstances, it is necessary for us to check the patterns carefully so as not to fall behind the market.


We try to change patterns less. For example, every three to four months so you don't have to worry.

Edward Febbraio  
Not quite sue why, but since the last update I'm seeing some differences with live and backtest data. The exact same orders are taken, but sometimes they're reversed. For example on live I'll have a sell order, but on backtest there will be a buy and vice versa. Again this happens at the exact same time on the charts. Any idea why this is happenening Mansour? It doesn't happen all the time, but I've noticed it every now and again.
Mansour Babasafary  
Edward Febbraio #:
Not quite sue why, but since the last update I'm seeing some differences with live and backtest data. The exact same orders are taken, but sometimes they're reversed. For example on live I'll have a sell order, but on backtest there will be a buy and vice versa. Again this happens at the exact same time on the charts. Any idea why this is happenening Mansour? It doesn't happen all the time, but I've noticed it every now and again.
Hi dear friend
Make sure the backtest and live settings are exactly the same.
Use a broker for live and test.
It happens sometimes, few of them, I still don't understand the main reason.
I am checking.
SSGGLL  
EA与实际交易不符,胜率没有测试情况显示的那么高,这只是巧合吗?
Mansour Babasafary  
SSGGLL #:
EA与实际交易不符,胜率没有测试情况显示的那么高,这只是巧合吗?
Hello
Old patterns are not completely repeated.
We have a reduction in the win rate.
Use the settings I put on the site.
You will be positive overall.
Micha9886  
I'm a little surprised at all the positive reviews. My overall result with the EA for the last 2 weeks (live and on demo account) is pretty bad. Attached is my result for this week on a test account. I selected Risk Reward 1 on all 4 recommended currency pairs with 30m timeframe (FIFO off, 5% risk). What am I doing wrong?
simeon.malev  
Micha9886 #:
I'm a little surprised at all the positive reviews. My overall result with the EA for the last 2 weeks (live and on demo account) is pretty bad. Attached is my result for this week on a test account. I selected Risk Reward 1 on all 4 recommended currency pairs with 30m timeframe (FIFO off, 5% risk). What am I doing wrong?

your risk is very high, try with 1% risk

But no matter what you do the EA doesn't work as well as it does in the backtest

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