Fantastic indicator - I used to spend hours drawing supply & demand zone on charts but this indicator does it all for you!
Advanced Supply Demand
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This indicator is a unique, high quality and affordable trading tool because we have incorporated a number of proprietary features and a new formula. With this update, you will be able to show double timeframe zones. You will not only be able to show a higher TF but to show both, the chart TF, PLUS the higher TF: SHOWING NESTED ZONES. All Supply Demand traders will love it. :)
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Advanced Supply Demand Indicator works on all products and timeframes. It is a new formula, and the very new features are two zone strength functions adjustable by user input! This is a great advantage in trading. When you learn how to use the proprietary features such as the zone strength with min X-factor of price travel away, you will be able to tell whether the zone is strong or not.
The supply and demand zones are used as an alert trigger. You have the choice of 3 alerts. If the price 1) enters the zone and/or 2) breaks the zone and/or 3) a reversal candle has formed from a zone. You can use popup alert with sound on MetaTrader 4 and/or push and/or email. When you will receive the alert you will know as a trader what to do.
The indicator can detect nested S/D zones!
A very powerful feature! The alert will tell if a S/D zone is nested (within) a higher timeframe S/D zone! All alerts can be filtered for nested zones.
Parameters
Supply Demand settings
- Min candles before a zone is printed (used for live chart).
- Min X-factor of price travel away (ATR) (The higher the number the stronger the zones). OPTIMIZE HERE FOR YOUR SYMBOL AND TIME FRAME!
- Min Y-factor of price travel away (zone size) 2nd Input: The higher the number the stronger the zones. OPTIMIZE HERE FOR YOUR SYMBOL AND TIME FRAME!
- Limited size of a big zone. Max factor (ATR) (Oversized big zones will be reduced. The higher the number the larger zones are allowed).
MTF settings
- Add higher TF
- Higher TF period (if MTF is the same or lower than chart TF, the higher one will be used)
- min HTF!-candles before a zone is printed
- min X-factor of price travel away (ATR) MTF
- min Y-factor of price travel away (zone size) MTF
- Limited size of a big zone. Max factor (ATR) MTF (Oversized big zones will be reduced. The higher the number the larger zones are allowed).
- Show inner price labels MTF
- Show outer price labels MTF
Chart settings
- Show inner price labels.
- Show outer price labels.
- Show old zones (needed for Sup/Dem counter, see below).
- Show yesterdays high/low
- Show todays pivot
- Show number of broken Sup/Dem in a row (counter)
- Show above in corner
- draw rectangle extended over live candle
Alert settings
- Alert zone hit
- Alert zone break
- Alert reverse candle from zone
- alert only NESTED zones! (within MTF)
- Alert Fake Breakout
- FBO min bar Size Point
- FBO bar close back % (20-90)
- FBO pattern bar count (1-3)
- Popup Alerts (MT4 popup and sound)
- Send email alerts
- Send push alerts
Color settings
- You know how to use it. Each zone has its own color.
To see the full list click here.
Other settings
- use PIN (to use for an EA)
- Show max number of supply zones
- Show max number of demand zones
- To see the full list click here.
Tips
- User Manual: Click Here.
- Use my template (See comments).
- Optimize Zone Strength for your symbol and timeframe.
- Stay within the trend. The indicator is mostly used with one of my other specialized indicators of currency strength.
- Check my news and blogs on profile for trading system and trade examples.
I will always help you if you have any questions.
Best regards, Bernhard
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Just perfect if you keep to all the published rules.
Special thanks to Bernhard for the indicators

Ich nutze vier Produkte von Bernhard in Kombination und habe fast alle anderen Indikatoren,die ich in nahezu 30 Jahren Trading "sammelte", deinstalliert.
Ich kann nur jedem Trader empfehlen, der dieses Business ernsthaft betreiben will, sich mit seinen Produkten auseinanderzusetzen.
Auch die schnelle Hilfsbereitschaft von Bernhard sind deutlich hervorzuheben und sehr selten anzutreffen, nachdem jemand sein Produkt verkauft oder verleast hat.
Eindeutiges "MUST HAVE" !!!

Great support and well coded excellent product, definitely deserve 5 stars.

Support and resistance zones are obviously important for forex. I don't like to spend time manually drawing zones/or visualising myself. This indicator is great and you can base a number of strategies off it, for instance bet on prices re-visiting the zones, bet on prices moving away further from new zones etc.
Additionally Bernhards support is second to none. He's always there to lend a helping hand.

The demand and supply levels on this indicator are excellent. Helps me with my SL/TP levels and I have gotten out of so many trades that I thought would go further but hit the levels and reversed. Excellent indicator.

I would say "Please! Get this indicator to complete your trading system". You won't believe this until you have one. This is supply & demand zone, not a simple support and resistance. The best part, it is automated and support multi timeframe. Thanks to Mr. Bernhard for developing such system. Hopefully, you will offer us discount for yearly renewal.

I am a newbie in the forex and I tested a lot of indicators and I am on the side of losses trade !
I took advanced dashboard and leave side because I'm more visual
Bernhard answered my questions even if everything was already explained in the blog!
then I came back to take the other products : AC28, impulse, advanced supply, advanced volume
I again asked Bernhard who answered by mail several times, quickly and courteously knowing that everything was already explained many times! what patience !
in the end I read the post, download the photos of explanations and now I understand all the interest of these visual tools and I even reintegrated dashboard!
in fact I see I will not have lost trade with these tools after taking a little time to understand
Tomorrow Monday, April 8, 2018 I start my trade quietly having understood what was largely explained and that I read in the patient mails of Bernhard and finally in the articles of the blog and post
actually a global view of the currencies very synthetic and easy
I have not seen this elsewhere with this level of relevencec is why I recommend this product to be in positive trade and I leave this post while I do not take the time to do it generally
so a big thank you for the support by email and for all the explanations for the products
i am french, retired and as you see my english could be better !

Supply and demand folks, not support and resistance! ;D This indicator is the embodiment of Bernhard's philosophy from my pov. It covers one of the most important topics in trading - profit targets, stop losses, win/lose ratio. The flexibility to trade your style but also to adapt according market conditions.
It works on any timeframe! I prefer putting profit targets exactly one tick below or above my second timeframe box (h4), best for daytraders. Mark my words: On most days the rate reaches these targets - for the first time(!), it reverses right at the stroke of the box. I never made any change on the settings, except playing with the timeframe.
No need to say, his indicators alltogether work like a finetuned machine. BUYSTRONG SELLWEAK

Nice indicator. Shows important price levels/zones, and helps to determine profit targets and stop losses. Support is very nice.

Fantastic tool for seeing the key levels / areas and it is extremely reliable and useful for either looking for trades within those zones or for taking profits. Don't like to trade without it.

Great Indicator. I'm using Advanced Supply Demand, Impulse and Strength28. Recommend using all 3 of them.

A brilliant indicator which clearly shows the demand and supply of currency pairs

He is a very accurate foreign exchange indicator, you can use it with confidence.

Great indicator!
I rent all the package ( currency strength, volume, impulse, SR zone) and I’m happy with it

Great indicator and brilliant support. Have used for past 6 months and when combined with Impulse and ACS28, it provides a very solid trading system

Ich habe zuerst Advanced Supply Demand benutzt und seit dem muß ich mich nicht mehr um Wiederstände kümmern in mein Handelssystem. Ich habe darauf Advanced Currency Strength28 Indicator und Adveanced Currency Impulse w. alert hinzu genommen und sehe jetzt wo meine Problem von meinen EA`s waren. Den DAX und Dow kann man mit dem Advanced Supply Demand auch sehr gut handeln falls es einen interessiert.
Zusammen bilden Sie ein sehr gutes System!
Danke Bernhard, Ralf
I used Advanced Supply Demand first, and since then I no longer have to worry about the odds in my trading system. I have Advanced Currency Strength28 Indicator and Adveanced Currency Impulse w. Alert added and now see where my problem of my EA's were. The DAX and Dow can also do very well with the Advanced Supply Demand if they are interested.
Together they make a very good system!
Thank you Bernhard, Ralf

absolute GAME CHANGER! I wish i discovered this when i first started trading!

Awesome indicator !
The multi-time frame and the nested zones will give your a real advantage. Now i can see clearly the strong zones for better entries or take profits.
Thank you Bernhard, very good job !

Great indicator, great documentation and excellent support from Bernhard!

The value of this indicator lies in the identification of target zones. It helps add confidence to entries and exits and when combined with Bernhard's Impulse and Strength indicators, it makes for a very powerful Trading System. Bernhard has put a lot of work into design and refining and is to be congratulated on his achievements.

I'm glad I rented it out along with S&D and Impulse.
This one is my favourite, because you see the best spot!

I have rented ASD.It is very good indicator. Amazing! I also have rented ACI with alert and ACS28.The combination of those 3 indicators is very useful and accurate.
Thank you Bernhard.

With this Indicator, I have completed, for now, my Kit to attack the Market with the strategy: "28 Pairs Currency Strength with Impulse Trading System". It is a complement to this Strategy, however, it is more independent. It is an Indicator that can be used in any strategy, as long as you want to see where the Supply & Demand zones are. I have already used some Supply & Demand Indicators and this is by far the most complete. The fact that it is possible to present these zones in two Time Frames in the same window is a considerable advantage.

Great indicators and excellent support from Bernhard!
The combination with the ACS28, Impulse Alert and Supply and Demand makes it an unbeatable system for the trade.
Thank you very much Bernhard!!

I think this is the best supply and demand zone indicator out there. Its formulated really accurate zones. Plus it can shows u higher tf zones.

I just bought I will test and I will give an opinion thereafter
the indicator seems really complete

I stumbled upon Bernhard indicators while searching MQL5 market. I read the theory behind the setup and the trade examples. Firstly I rented CS28 and right away started to use it on my live account. I can say that this was a right decision I had taken. After CS28 I also rented impulse speed, supply and demand and dashboard indicators. These indicators complement each other and give you confidence when you initiate a trade. It might look difficult but if you go through the trade examples Bernhard has posted you will learn a lot. After all Bernhard support is excellent.

This is one of the best Indicators on MQL5 community for Supply&Demand traders. It has Alerts,too.

I have been using the Bernhard's Indicators (Dashboard, Volume, Strength, Impulse and Supply/Demand) for over a year and have increased my win/loss ratio dramatically.
I am dumping everything else and focusing on this suite of indicators exclusively. THEY WORK.
Great products combined with great service and thorough documentation.

I trade using candlestick patterns and trendlines usually. I rented this indicator hoping to improve picking key Reversals and have to say ...i am impressed. On first day itself, it has made my Profits better and consistent, well atleast over last 12 trades. Will update after using it for few more weeks. But for now, Thanks to the Developer Bernhard for the excellent product. Hoping to buy the CS28 soon..

The Advance Supply Demand in combination with Advance Currency Impluse/Alert and Advance Currency Strength28 gives excellent support to my Trading approach. The visual indication is real time and dependable. Support is outstanding. Would always recommend it.

Advanced supply and demand combined with acs28 and/or impulse is a great tool to use for my trading. Really like using the nested zones. They are solid points of interest. Any questions I’ve had have been answered quickly and effectively. Thx for the great product

This is a very good indicator for resistance and support. Especially when you use the Multi Time Frame "Nesting" function on the same chart. Works very well to help decide which pairs to trade, take profit, stop loss, entries and exits. Works very well together with the Absolute Strength Currency28, where the supply and demand zones most of the time give you good information for your trading decisions.
SVENSKA
En väldigt bra indikator för motstånd och support. Jag har aldrig förut sett motstånd och stöd som fungerar så bra. SJälv använder jag indikatorn tillsammans med Absolute Strength Currency28 och de samverkar extremt bra.

This is cutting edge supply and demand indicator! the best I have seen so far! really helps you in your trading

Saves you a lot of time from drawing the zones yourself. Awesome indicator.

All i can say about this indicator is that its one of a kind, very impressed with the nesting strategy you can apply to your trades, well done bernhard, 5 out of 5 stars from me.

ASD is the best to place his stop and target and to avoid taking the wall.

Great to use in conjunction with ACS28 and Impulse indicator to determine target price.

Great tool to have when combined with price action strategies. Very Pleased

I've been trading forex for just over 4 years when a short while ago I learned to trade supply and demand. I have never been this consistent before and knew from that point forward I would never turn back.
I've compared it to a man's levels who has been trading supply and demand for years as well as taught it. The levels are always as good as his and in fact better with the nested zones.

A great indicator that works exceptionally well with the other indicators Bernhards developed. Nice to find good Places to set Your TP and SL orders!

I've used Bernhard's indicators before. They are thoroughly helpful for my scalps. The highest rating is deserved!

this tool is very helpful and reduces my time to analyze supply & demand. I hope all Bernhard products can be purchase & added with more activations.
I just rented this indicator over the weekend and it works well with the previous ACS 28. Thank you for your many explanations in Bernhard's e-mail.

Very good indicator which save me a lot of work. I used to draw the Supply and Demand Zones manually. But this indicator do all the hard work for you and even better than manually, because it works with multiple timeframes on one chart (nested zones) It gives you alerts which you can adjust the way you like it. You can set alerts only for new zones or nested zones. I am very happy with it. Also very good support. Thank you Bernhard.

I only trade in supply and demand areas. This indicator with ACS28 and the currency impulse will give a winning strategy.

Was considering for sometime to get this after getting the AC28 , after applying on the charts it was amazing , worth every cent for it, definitely a plus for you to view the market more clearly and definitely help alot in my strategies , THUMBS UP , it's just like your trade insurance . If you're unsure which level you're being safe or danger this shows you clearly , i'm amazed.

ACS28 + IMPULSE + SD is indispensable. It will tell me whether to trade, SL and TP.

Thank you Bernhard! You are best! Great tool for SD traders! And I appreciate your fast update to indicator upon my request!

A great indicator for added confluence in my trading. Great for training your eye in seeing demand and supply zones. Works flawlessly with Bernhards currency strength28 indicator and the impulse indicator. First 2 days, I used it 12 trades all in the green. No matter what your style of trading his tools will improve your edge.

It is an essential tool to directly see the key levels of supply and demand, I highly recommend this indicator! Extremely recommended for all strategies! thank you so much

Finally something i've been looking for. Works perfectly with my strategy. Thank you for making my life easy and pips greener! Fast response too. Keep up the good work.

Very useful tool. Helps me with the key levels and those alerts are really amazing.
Smashing Bernhard Thanks

Incredibly powerful in getting key areas. A perfect complement of the other Bernhard tools.

I bought a number of supply & demand indicators in the past and this one is simply the best! Bernhard is also providing great and timely support. Many thanks!

Tried a lot of zones. This one is definitely the best. Thanks to Bernhard!

Simply the best supply and demand indicator! All of Bernhards indicators are excellent and the support is excellent as well

This is the most powerful tool I have ever used in MT4! Highly Recommended!

Bernhards indicators look very promising and he provides very good support.

I am using Bernhard indicators (ASD, ACS28 and Impulse) almost for two weeks. The indicators are amazing and helping me with profit consistency which I had not before these indicators. Really helpful indicators.

Really makes your trading life easier as you dont need to plot support and resistance levels on your charts as this indicator does it automatically. Another good thing is it can also show you the support and resistance level in multi timeframes!

Hi Awesome Indicator, i love it
Benhard, can i suggest an additional setting; the addition of only displaying engulfing supply and demand zones; so exactly as you have it now but only display if it engulfed the base, would this be possible ?

reat indicator. Helps me confirm my trades. I no longer trade in fear. I can place my trades confidently as well as let a trade go with out FOMO because I know if its a worth trade based on the strengths of 2 currency if its not a double GAP. I personally wont take the trade. I also use it with Advanced Supply and Demand indicator when I get signals for bearish/bullish reversal candle in a nested zone combined with the Impulse Alert. pretty much is a green light to place the trade. Hope this helps someone who is wondering if its worth it. it most definitely is.

Awesome Indicator, I really like it. It paints high probability setups in a single chart. No need to move from timeframe to timeframe.
This indicator helps in trading on the let-profit-run basis. It helps when to pull back.

Fantastic indicator - I used to spend hours drawing supply & demand zone on charts but this indicator does it all for you! This combined with ACS28 and Impulse is a winning combination! Excellent support from Bernhard - thank you for this great product!

This indicator is really helping for beginners. Also great support to. Thank you!

if you not have solid knowledge in supply and demand, it will be useless for you.

This is one of the best support/resistance (or demand/supply) indicators. A bit expensive but really good. The nested zones is a great function as well. 5 starts from me. Read the manual and you will have a great indicator to see the support and resistance levels

I can happily say this is the best supply/ demand indicator I have bought. Thanks

The indicator is one of the best you can possibly use. It involves understanding a system of trading--Supply & Demand--but is, technically, absolutely fantastic. Customer service is great! Functionality is excellent.

The zone or level or supply and demand are very helpful for my trading. It help show clear areas for trade entries or stops. I can see higher time frame zones too so I don't run into adverse pressure with my trades. I combine with ACS28 and Impulse . It's accurate most of times to be trusted enough for trading.

Best product I've every used! Very comprehensive and well developed. It reacts to the market and shows all the relevant data to make great trading decisions. It has been a catalyst to increase my trading profits consistently!!

tested for couple weeks definetly great product FIVE STARS. Myself 3 month experience but with this tool I assure you can make profit

Undoubtedly the best Supply and Demand indicator in the market at the moment period. Also Bernhard's supports is incredible, he will give you all the templates that goes with his indicators. Another 5STAR indicator from Bernhard.

This is indeed one of the best support/resistance (or demand/supply) indicators out there. I use in all my charts and helps tremendously to understand what is happening. I strongly recommend it.

I have been trading for a while now and realize how important having accurate supply/damand zones on your chart are to making good trades. This is by far the best supply/demand indicator I've used and I've used dozens over the years. Saves you a lot of time having to draw all these zones yourself and you can easily see what the zones are across all time frames. If you combine a good knowledge of price action with the zones provided by this indicator then you have a high probability of your trades being successful.

This is a great product and offers a lot of insight on when and where to enter trades. A++++++

Thank you Bernhard for all your hard work and bringing a awesome Indicator to share with fellow traders! Your insight into the markets mechanics and how to measure it with different systems to get to a accurate view of potential moves is Brilliant! Guys ... Bernard is in the same class as Jim Simons which many claim made more money than Warren Buffet. Jim developed tradings systems.. I bought 2 systems from Bernard already and will buy 3 more today, and I should know now what works after being at this for 19 years. Thanks again Bernard Respect, Gratitude and Admiration for what you have done!

Fantastic indicator - I used to spend hours drawing supply & demand zone on charts but this indicator does it all for you!

it is easy and fast method to see supply and demand zone. no more bad trading after this indicator. Excellent and 5 star. Bernhard is also very helpfull. After I purchased Advanced Supply and Demand, same day I purchased ACS 28 and rented AC impulse . Now, I use all together with them , they are completly game changer and winner system.
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The new update brings:
MODIFICATION FOR ZONE SIZE (optional)
Some traders of supply and demand zones asked for a new function. It was added optionally: Including a wick for the width of the supply and demand zones.
New input:
+ Include wick 1 for the zone size
By default, the function is not used. To use the function, you must set the new input = true (the selection is also copied to the higher time frame).
Since the zones will be wider, some zones could be filtered. You may want to use lower XY factors.
This is possibly the last update from a 2020 series.
From now on I will add the new features to "Supply and Demand Dashboard PRO".
1) Graphical improvements and
2) Some traders of supply and demand zones requested a new function. It was added optionally: Draw supply and demand zones only at major highs and lows.
New input:
+ use only major highs and lows
By default, the function is not used. To use the function, you must set the new input = true. (The choice will be copied to the higher timeframe as well.
To show all zones at highs and lows you might want to set all XY-factors = 1.0, but it can be combined.)
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Added optional: Supply and Demand zones with ENGULFING BARS pattern at the beginning of the zone.
Use reversal candle color for bar 1 or bar 2 (the one before). Use either ones or both.
Use true engulfing pattern for above mentioned bars. (Must choose above.)
By default the use is false. To use the function you must set the new inputs = true.
New inputs:
==== Candle pattern
+ use reversal candle color bar 1
+ use reversal candle color bar 2 (both or either)
+ use true engulfing pattern (choose above)
It will show in the right corner of the rectangles. The size of the higher timeframe is shifted a few bars to the left.
new inputs:
=== Chart settings
+ show zone size (point)
+ show zone size MTF (point)
associated inputs:
+ color price labels
=== other settings
+ font size zone
+ Label font 1
Added room in points for HIT-alert. Now the trader can receive an earlier alert when price is NEAR a zone. Then he can take action or watch. This input should be applied according to the symbol and timeframe. The trader can make it bigger to suit his needs. The default value is 5 points. (10 point = 1 pip.)
new input:
+ room in points for HIT-alert
new inputs:
==== FBO Alert settings
+ Alert Fake Breakout (FBO)
+ FBO min bar Size Point
+ FBO bar closes back % (20-90)
+ FBO pattern bar count (1-3)
2) For old zones a new candle limit was added. If there is a strong trend, zones with only 2000 bars lookback may not be within range. Therefore, this limit has been increased to 5000. But so far we don't have to draw old zones. Therefore, a new limit has been added for old zones with 1000 bars.
new input:
+ Show Bars back for old zones
3) Now you can edit the size for arrow as requested by trader.
new input:
+ reverse candle arrow size (1 to 5)
2) As requested by a trader the reversal arrow will now only draw on nested zones if the filter "alert only nested" is true.
3) A new filter for alerts has been added to alert only if the zone is new or untouched. (Excluding break alert.)
New input:
+ reverse candle: use only new zones (default = false)
To activate the filter set above input to true;
4) A new candle limit has been added for old zones. If there is a strong trend the zones might not be in range with only 2000 bars look back. So this limit was set higher to 5000 bars. But we do not need to draw old zones so far. That's why a new limit for old zones has been added. (Default = 1000 bars.)
New input:
+ show Bars back for old zones
To make sure the higher timeframe filters out weak S/D zones the same way as the lower timeframe (chart) does.
Also you can setup different values for each timeframe.
Default values are now set to:
+ min X-factor of price travel away (ATR) = 1.4
+ min Y-factor of price travel away (zone size) = 2
Added an optional filter to alert only nested zones. (The lower timeframe zone must be within a higher timeframe zone.)
It applies to all 3 actual alerts (hit - reverse - break).
If turned off the alerts will still tell if the alerted zone was nested or not.
New input:
+ alert only NESTED zones! (within MTF)
Added an optional pause in seconds for less CPU use. (Set to 0 to turn it off) At least on each new candle new zones will be checked.
New input:
+ pause runs in seconds to next update (for less CPU use) (0=not)
If the square is not filled and the width is 1 it can be used as dashed/dotted etc...
New input below other settings:
+ rectangle line style MTF (width must be 1)
If you want the higher timeframe to show like before set XY-filter MTF = 1.0
New input parameters:
==== MTF settings
+ min HTF!-candles before a zone is printed
+ min X-factor of price travel away (ATR) MTF
+ min Y-factor of price travel away (zone size) MTF
Added pre-name for objects. In case you want to use the indicator twice on a chart, enter here a letter for the 2nd.
New input parameters:
==== other settings
+ prename for additional objects
Final upgrade with faster calculations.
It just got hypersonic speed to draw all levels and zones !!!
+ added "usePIN" for developments (Global variables)
Gives access to the first 5 supply and demand zones (outer price, inner price, if it is used or not, the timeframe, and the symbol).
Optimized alerts.
Minimized CPU usage with a timer.
Reorganized inputs.
New input parameters:
+ draw rectangle extended over live candle (1 to 5 bars)
+ zone print delay seconds for redraw (5 to 60 sec)
+ color supply old
+ color demand old
Repeating alerts on M1 are been fixed.
Now you can choose empty squares for the higher timeframe (MTF) and edit the line width. This makes it graphically easier to differentiate between chart timeframe zones and higher timeframe zones.
+ rectangle style full MTF (default=false)
+ rectangle width (1-5) MTF (default=3)
The colors have been modified for the higher TF to be more beautiful.
Indicator parameters added:
==== MTF settings
+ ADD higher TF
+ higher TF period (or one more if chart TF)
+ show inner price labels MTF
+ show outer price labels MTF
+ limited size of a big zone. Max factor (ATR) MTF
+ color supply MTF
+ color supply used MTF
+ color demand MTF
+ color demand used MTF
+ color price labels MTF
+ size price labels MTF
it is easy and fast method to see supply and demand zone. no more bad trading after this indicator. Excellent and 5 star. Bernhard is also very helpfull. After I purchased Advanced Supply and Demand, same day I purchased ACS 28 and rented AC impulse . Now, I use all together with them , they are completly game changer and winner system.