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It's like you know. 🔮
I don't share my best EA for several reasons.
wow, really !!?
so you prefer to print money in silent mode? 😅😂 don’t be greedy share a little with us!!!
Ooh, like a Blackjack EA. 😅😂
Yeah, something like that . and by the way, there are people who use probability to make millions in trading , but as you said, they don’t share those ideas. If it really works, it stays quiet.
wow, really !!?
so you prefer to print money in silent mode? 😅😂 don’t be greedy share a little with us!!!
I can't. The biggest reason... I'm likely joining a proprietary trading firm later this month and as with many other prop firms, I would be banned if anyone trades with the same strategy. Once something is thrown into the ether, there's no telling where it goes.
If you look far and wide in this Forum, you'll see that I freely contribute in many other ways.
Yeah, something like that...
I continue to curse the day that casinos reduced the Blackjack hand payout from 2:1 down to 1.5:1. I had a matrix with an edge that the reduction turned into scrap paper. When math is not in my favor, I don't play the game. And with that state of mind, I really can't say that I was even really gambling. It actually led to a dispute because the terms of the game had been altered without notice. They gave me a few bucks to just go away quietly.
I can't. The biggest reason... I'm likely joining a proprietary trading firm later this month and as with many other prop firms, I would be banned if anyone trades with the same strategy. Once something is thrown into the ether, there's no telling where it goes.
If you look far and wide in this Forum, you'll see that I freely contribute in many other ways.
I continue to curse the day that casinos reduced the Blackjack hand payout from 2:1 down to 1.5:1. I had a matrix with an edge that the reduction turned into scrap paper. When math is not in my favor, I don't play the game. And with that state of mind, I really can't say that I was even really gambling. It actually led to a dispute because the terms of the game had been altered without notice. They gave me a few bucks to just go away quietly.
Of course, the HOUSE always wins, and even when you win one time , the house still wins multi time , that’s the big rule.
They give you $1 and let you make $10, then they change the rules and you lose $100.
That’s why I respect your mindset, you trust math, and the same applies to trading, a 1:5 and even 1:10 risk-to-reward is possible. I’ve already done it using pure math and a personal EA on gold, it was a simple EA, nothing fancy, but the results were powerful, risking 1 to get 10 changes everything when the edge is real. it's all about math and the best time and the power to take decision , and you can change all ,it's so easy just one word no risk no money !
About prop firms, yes, they can ban public strategies, but they can’t ban an edge, education, or the way you think. When you truly understand the rules, you can play the game as they do, think outside the box, adapt, and suddenly their rules no longer control you.
About prop firms, yes, they can ban public strategies, but they can’t ban an edge, education, or the way you think. When you truly understand the rules, you can play the game as they do, think outside the box, adapt, and suddenly their rules no longer control you.
Right on. A real prop firm puts the actual "proprietary" flow into their game. They remarket a trader's edge to hedge funds and investment banks as a unique form of diversification. Instead of saying, "Hey, go get your professional trading license and then apply with your diversified portfolio," they say, "Step right up, prove that you can trade at least one thing, and we'll sell 2 out of every 10 of your copied trades to our partners on an as needed hedging basis."
I just realized now that edge is hedge without the h. 🤔
Right on. A real prop firm puts the actual "proprietary" flow into their game. They remarket a trader's edge to hedge funds and investment banks as a unique form of diversification. Instead of saying, "Hey, go get your professional trading license and then apply with your diversified portfolio," they say, "Step right up, prove that you can trade at least one thing, and we'll sell 2 out of every 10 of your copied trades to our partners on an as needed hedging basis."
I just realized now that edge is hedge without the h. 🤔
or maybe it will be fine to trade your own capital. No rules, no filters, no selling your edge, no middleman. you keep 100% of the edge, 100% of the hedge, 100% of the profit.
Everyone talks about indicators like they’re magic… but the truth? Most ‘famous’ indicators are just lagging signals.
Price action beats them 9 times out of 10. Who actually trades without indicators and survives?
You’re right that they lag, but 'lag' is just another word for confirmation, Price action is often subjective two people see two different patterns but a mathematical indicator is objective. Indicators aren't meant to predict the future, they’re meant to filter the noise so you aren't chasing every random tick
Agreed , that’s the real game. a true prop firm monetizes flow, not evaluation fees. The trader’s edge becomes a hedging asset, sold selectively to institutions as diversification.
or maybe it will be fine to trade your own capital. No rules, no filters, no selling your edge, no middleman. you keep 100% of the edge, 100% of the hedge, 100% of the profit.
IMHO, the real prop firms actually pay 100% of profits earned by the trader's edge on "simulated" profit, and the firm's payouts are not contingent upon reselling the trader's edge. Logic dictates that this would be a failing business model for the prop firm if they weren't reselling anything on the backend. There is simply no way that the evaluation fees could cover those payouts. Yes, this is logical evidence of a real game if you will.
stop please , don't push me to start thinking about how to create my own Prop Firm :) :) :)
No problem.
I'm merely informing traders of an avenue to increase profit using the edge of their indicator(s)--not starting their own prop firms. 😉