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I have not, to my recollection, suggested such a thing.But you have proposed outrageous changes to legislation to rob the profits of entrepreneurs and hand out to workers.
And how about to compensate your factory for the losses? - Or do socialists only come to share the profits?
In general I see that you are again evading direct questions, but nothing I will repeat:
Well, if you feel like it, I'll repeat some things and clarify others.
1) The average salary does not limit the owner's profits. This is your wrong conclusion. As production becomes more efficient, both the average wage and the amount of money used for personal consumption by the owner should grow. They may also grow by opening new businesses. All I am suggesting is to fix the ratio of the owner's funds for personal consumption to the average wage in the enterprise.
2) It has become someone else's because of the unfair appropriation of the results of the collective labor of the enterprise.
3) What does this have to do with me, I am a pensioner. As for the entrepreneur, like the forex trader, he must be aware that entrepreneurial activity involves financial risk.
4) Intuitively, I think the distribution is fair if the ratio is 1:10. I have already written that the figure can be refined by an expert group of economists when drafting appropriate laws. I have also written about decent wages, but you either don't read it or you simply don't want to accept it, which is understandable because you are an apologist for wild capitalism. I consider a wage decent if it is sufficient to meet a person's basic needs while respecting the principle of reasonable sufficiency. It can be calculated and officially approved after it has been calculated by an expert panel of economists.
5) It is quite possible, I am not an economist. I am only putting forward an idea. And a more precise justification and with the correct terminology can be done by an expert group of economists.
6) I have not written such a thing anywhere. But I have written about the need to create laws to limit the entrepreneur's ability to obtain excessive funds for personal consumption through the improper distribution of income from the sale of the product produced together with the collective.
1) The average wage does not limit the owner's profits. This is your wrong conclusion. As production efficiency increases, both the average wage and the amount of funds used by the owner for personal consumption should increase. They can also increase by opening new businesses. All I am suggesting is to fix the ratio of the owner's funds for personal consumption to the average wage in the enterprise.
If the owner has two businesses, should the workers receive at least 0.1 profit from two businesses or one?
and if the owner has two businesses, should the workers receive at least 0.1 profit from two businesses or one ?
Is that your suggestion? No, I don't think it is reasonable.
Of course, one and not the profit, but that part of it that is used by the owner for personal expenses.
Is that your suggestion? No, I don't think it is reasonable.
Of course, one, not the profit, but the part of it that is used by the owner for personal expenses.
er, honestly, I was wondering how you'd get away with it, but you didn't even find the catch. disappointed.
Disappointed because you don't agree with the answer or...?
I'm surprised you're still awake. I, an old man, understandably - insomnia. But I imagine you are still young enough. Or Batko broke your tails there and you are always on edge.))
Well, if you feel like it, I'll repeat some things and clarify others.
Thank you for your answers.
1) The average salary does not limit the owner's profits. This is your incorrect conclusion. As production efficiency increases, both the average wage and the amount of funds used by the owner for personal consumption should grow. They can also grow by opening new businesses. All I am saying is that the owner's funds for personal consumption should be fixed in relation to the average wage in the enterprise.
So if you want a fixed ratio of personal consumption of the owner to the average wage, it means that the average wage will always limit the owner to a linear relationship!
And then it turns out that with the growth of volumes, when revenue and net profit figures are growing faster than the average wage, the business owner still has to artificially limit himself in personal income, it is nonsense, why do it, what is the point in it?
2) It has become a stranger after the unfair appropriation of the results of the collective work of the enterprise.
But the work of the collective has already been paid for, the results of the collective have been sold to the enterprise (the owner) under an employment contract for wages, and you keep pretending that the employees are not paid! - Where is the misappropriation in that?
3) What does this have to do with me, I am a pensioner. As for the entrepreneur, just like a forex trader, he must be aware of the financial risk involved when starting a business.
Of course it does! You think that if your company's profits increase you should be paid more, don't you? If a company makes losses you withdraw quickly and you do not want your revenues to decrease and fall into deficit. Who is going to cover the losses?
That is the devious logic of the socialist! He wants to share in the profits, and let someone else bear the risks...
4) Intuitively I think the distribution is fair, if the ratio is 1:10. I have already written that the figure can be specified by an expert group of economists when drafting relevant laws. I have also written about decent wages, but you either don't read it or you simply don't want to accept it, and that is understandable because you are an apologist for savage capitalism. I consider a wage decent if it is sufficient to meet a person's basic needs while respecting the principle of reasonable sufficiency. It can be calculated and officially approved after it has been calculated by a panel of expert economists.
Well, the economists have already calculated the minimum wage, which covers basic needs, and any wage in the most run-down factory is always higher than this minimum, what more do you want? Is that not enough for you to have a decent level? Then disclose your criteria for dignity, in simple terms, what are your needs, what exactly they include, so you feel worthy?
And make sure you explain why you think you have to pay for this level of well-being.
5) Quite possibly, I'm not an economist. I am only putting forward an idea. A more precise justification with the correct terminology could be made by a group of expert economists.
Profit is income minus expenses, all of a sudden. And the idea of funding employees out of profits (even if it's through payroll) is a very rotten idea, you can't do that, and you can't give people money for nothing, they have to earn it by creating a new level of value.
6) I haven't written that anywhere. But about the need to create laws to limit the entrepreneur's ability to obtain excessive funds for personal consumption through the improper distribution of income from the sale of the product produced together with the collective, yes I have.
Since you are demanding that a successful entrepreneur/owner pay you more, you are also demanding that a richer/successful one finance your financial problems - that should be obvious. It is unclear why you are demanding that someone else's personal consumption be limited, is that bad for you?
Distribution of income from sales is nowhere and never done, open any financial statement, the net profit after all taxes and interest on loans is distributed, and distributed as dividends, in proportion to the proportion of shares held.
I recommend downloading some basic course on financial management to get your bearings better and not writing all this horrifying socialist nonsense on the forum, for example you can read here, it's not hard: https://www.cfin.ru/finanalysis/ and in particular here: https://www.cfin.ru/finanalysis/lytnev/
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Why should wages suddenly rise as production efficiency increases? Let's say there was a longshoreman who used to carry
and carrying boxes and sacks with his hands and on his back, and suddenly he was given a trolley. His work became easier, so his
his wages go down. Such is life. And it has been observed for a long time, since the days of developed socialism.