what is the right way to learn? - page 17

 
STARIJ:

The words of the respected author are NOT DATA to form conclusions. It is a ready-made conclusion, backed up by information in the form of the author's experimental statistics. The deposit growth curve should be in line with the customer's wishes. Any customer (and myself too) wants maximum growth rate. So the exponent satisfies everybody, except for pathological slackers far from mathematics.

10% per day, for 2 weeks 100%, double. In a month - quadruple. In 5 months 4*4*4*4 = 1024, for a year over 1000000 + 2 months holiday. What do you have against this mathematical brevity and absolute precision? That's what people come to forex for, that's what you can achieve in 6 years: of which 4 years of study, a year of practice and a year of work. Then it's time for bliss, palm trees, penguins, sea with mountain steeps, mountains with dolphins, moon in squid tentacles, stars in jellyfish eyes, pearl in every coconut - see the link if you find it hard to believe again. You have to learn, you have to learn, you have to learn .... If you don't get more than 1000000 in a year, it's a multiplier for the initial deposit. And let's stop all this empty bickering and move on to the teaching methodology.

Here we go again - on the same rake.

Is it your hobby to "miss the point" or what?

That the price movement is fully controlled by the market maker, ... that any dependence, which you find, and on which you sit down to "milk" - will soon be destroyed by market makers, ... if everything in Forex was as simple as your words suggest, there would be no Forex, ... no this site, ... no discussion between us, but a select club, that would secretly "take the pennies" of the other suckers.

You can dream, multiply... and multiply all you want... But, in practice, as soon as you switch to real trading, your "lucky streak" will run out very quickly ... and at best, will be replaced by a 50/50 mode.

(Well, now, you can stop "idle bickering" if you still do not get the point)

 
prikolnyjkent:
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I have been teaching you for pages now that the course of the price is completely controlled by the market maker;...that any dependency you discover and sit on to "milk" - will soon be destroyed by the market makers;...h

Do you seriously think the market maker is so impoverished that he is interested in your pittance?
 
paukas:
Do you really think the market maker is so impoverished that he cares about your measly pennies?

Our...? No...

He moves the prices to where the "bigger moose" are in the mix.

Well, it's a matter of chance which side our suckers end up on.

 
paukas:
Do you really think the market maker is so impoverished that he cares about your pennies?
The market maker is not, but the kitchens of different calibre and depth of float to which most traders (especially those who start with $10) stick - quite. And there are a lot of kitchens, the hen pecking at the grain ;)
 
prikolnyjkent Same old racket again.

Is it your hobby to "miss the point" or what?

Nice guy! Same old rake again. What's your hobby? "Don't get it right"? I've told you a hundred times: the right trading advisor ... should give you one recommendation: "Do not enter the market". Here it is - statistics! And then: you can observe trends, cycles, reversal patterns, channels and other attributes of technical analysis. This is the trader's psychology - to see mirages in a desert, where there is no information.

Clearly stated, winning on forex is a myth. Type forex cheating into Yandex (or your google). Get millions of pages on the subject. Every page proves that forex is a scam. And then immediately offer to teach you how to work forex. So listen, read, understand what you're being taught. And you're proving the same thing to me in your own words again!!!! Try to prove it to yourself and find out your position. If you completely agree with me, then why prove it. Learn the proposed methodology - it is almost ready. I will teach you, I will polish my methodology on you and then I will learn it myself... And humbly wait for the continuation of the training

 
evillive:
Market maker - no, but kitchens of different calibre and depth, which most traders (especially those who start with 10 dollars) stick to - quite. And there are a lot of them, the hen pecking at the grain ;)
Why? They'll sell everything on their own without any trickery.
 
STARIJ:

Cool kent! Here we go again - on the same rake. What's your hobby - "not getting the point" or what? I've told you a hundred times: the right trading advisor ... should give you one recommendation: "Do not enter the market". Here it is - statistics! And then: you can observe trends, cycles, reversal patterns, channels and other attributes of technical analysis. These are all imaginary figures and they won't help to trade. This is a trader's psychology - to see mirages in the desert, where there is not a single drop of information.

Clearly stated, winning on forex is a myth. Type forex cheating into Yandex (or your google). Get millions of pages on the subject. Every page proves that forex is a scam. And then immediately offer to teach you how to work forex. So listen, read, understand what you're being taught. And you're proving the same thing to me in your own words again!!!! Try to prove it to yourself and find out your position. If you completely agree with me, then why prove it. Study the proposed methodology - it is almost ready. I will teach you, I will polish my methodology on you - and then I will learn it myself... And humbly wait for the continuation of the training

You're kind of weird

I rather like to read text messages from the bank about the money deposited into my account... It's much more convincing than your tales of forex myths.

When you see a currency exchange office on the street, remember that "Forex is a myth" ... that "Forex is a fraud..."; that there is no floating exchange rate; that the morning news announcer says that the National Bank has set so-and-so exchange rates ...
There is no forex. So there is no exchange rate... And if there is, it does not change... Isn't that how it works for your Yandex?

If there are currency exchangers on the streets, changing the numbers on the boards of exchange rates ... then there is Forex (for your trading terminal is the online version of the usual exchanger)

If there is a change in the exchange rate, then you can make money on it.
But not the way you're going to do it. It would be a miracle if you could make money with TRANSLATION. I keep trying to explain it to you, but you keep "kicking and screaming like an unreasonable calf".

If you do not want to learn from others' mistakes - learn from your own ... I will not interfere any more

 

By the way, I very seldom look into threads discussing different TSs.

But becauseevillive showed me his "losing" Expert Advisor statistics with the ratio 1.29 as an example for examination, I had a feeling that I've never encountered mentions of such a ratio in any of discussions. I don't even know what to call it briefly, but I calculate it the following way:...

- i take the ratio of Average Number of Pips of all profitable trades to Average Number of Pips of negative trades: k1 = pp / np

- then I take the ratio of Profit trades to Loss trades: k2 = pt / nt

- and finally, I multiply k1 by k2... Why...

Long time ago, when I was still looking for myself in Forex... and searching data for dependencies, I got a question: what is the dependence of the number of Open Positions triggered by the average distance to these Stops in pips...
Because if it is not linear (specifically - NOT y = kx, when k = 1), then I can earn purely on statistics, stupidly opening towards "k deviation from one". Then Mathemat replied that - checked... The dependence is linear... and I took his word for it.

However, this coefficient is firmly imprinted in my mind as an Indicator of Predictive Power of trading systems based on attempts to predict the price movement.

And nowevillive"trashes" an Expert Advisor showing the ratio of 1.29 ... And this is "real" money...

Why?

 
prikolnyjkent:

By the way, I very rarely check the discussion threads on different TCs.

And nowevillive"trashes" the Expert Advisor showing the value of this coefficient 1.29... But it's "real" money...

Why?

Because no one was able to make it profitable on the long term, neither optimizations nor reversals help, and the Expert Advisor is not interesting for me for a week.

It was trashed a long time ago, so it should be there now.

And where did you see non-linearity in the expressiony = k*x ??? It is a linear relationship, any high school student will tell you that, as will a more experienced mathematician.

 
prikolnyjkent If you don't want to learn from others' mistakes, learn from your own... I won't interrupt any more.

What a joy, he'll be off our backs

By the way, I very seldom look in the discussion threads of different TCs.

You rejoiced too soon, once again you've gone seven versts to the sky and all to the woods. What a lover of twisting things around... and throwing words into the wind.

That on the 15th page of this thread he says that Forex is an inevitable loss, different beasts eat all the winnings:

The lucky trader doesn't end his trade after these very 9 hours ...
He comes to the market again and again ... And the inexorable Spread... and Probability eaten all his "times" ... and "percentages"
And already on this page 17 claims the opposite
Prikolnyjkent : If there are currency exchangers on the streets, changing numbers on the scoreboard with the rates of exchange, ... then there is a Forex (because your trading platform is the online version of the usual exchanger)... And if there is a CHANGE OF FOREX, then you CAN BELIEVE ON THIS...

So read all your posts and identify your position and then prove it.

And before you write something new, check with the old one. Otherwise it's like... (do you understand me?)