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costantin:
If so, I don't think there's any point, and it depends on what kind of martin... what owls.
No stop martin.
 

In general, you villagers have one serious problem: no one has a clear idea of what to do with unprofitable trades if they suddenly freeze up. I downloaded a couple of EAs from this thread and had a look. I have seen even the Expert Advisor posted here by a very experienced guy who has the same problem. If the price jumps within the corridor - everything is OK, but if there is an unexpected move, it is fucked.

Such strategies can be used if you gamble for 100 rubles, you get lucky and get a thousand, if you are unlucky, nothing. Ice cream + McDonalds + a girl to the movies if you're lucky, no - you'll do without a movie, I'll talk you into it. As soon as the amount is significant, the EA in the tester immediately tells the trader - do not trade that way.

You cannot drag losses to infinity. You'd better think about it.

 
khorosh:
It's like a mirage - it seems to be close by and when you get there it turns out to be another lost deposit. I do not understand all this fuss with demo testing of a new variant, you can check it in the tester at once. And do not expect that if one of the Expert Advisors starts to lose money, the second one will compensate for the losses, because it will never earn as much as the first one did. The question of losing has not been solved in the new version. It will probably drain less frequently than the classical Ilan, but it will also earn less. Therefore, the effectiveness of this variant must be judged by how much money the Expert Advisor manages to earn during the period between drawdowns.
Yes, the entire trick is expected in negligible probability of losing money. At the same time with moderate (not quite microscopic) earnings.
 
MeTrade:
No stop marti

I'm just getting into owls so it's better to look for a more advanced specialist)

I'm just getting into owls so it's better to look for an advanced expert)

 
MeTrade:
No stop marti

Very valuable idea) Just the other day I was thinking the same thing)

But it only makes sense on microscopic starts. If I lost one - no problem, I got a stop-loss profit with my foregarden, I got back ten of my lost deposits and earned good money).

 
MeTrade:
Negative, sir.


Then it's not a martin)

OnGoing:
Yes, the whole point is expected to be the negligible probability of being drained. At the same time with moderate (not quite microscopic) earnings.


At one time I was fond of martin. I developed an awesome Expert Advisor with MM, which withstands about 30 trades in a row against you (martingale in all directions). I was smart enough to try it on a micro account. The probability of losing was almost microscopic. But these 30 trades in a row happened in the first week. After that I realized that the market is willing to do anything to take your money).

 
OnGoing:

Very valuable idea) Just the other day I was thinking the same thing)

But it only makes sense on microscopic starts. If I lost it - no problem, I got a dead-bottom profit together with my foregarden - I got back ten of my lost deposits and made a good profit too).

That's how it turns out) funny picture you had there)

 
OnGoing:
it's strange not to have opened any poses yet) there...
 
Figar0:


Then it's not a martin).


At one time I was keen on martin. I developed an awesome Expert Advisor with MM that was supporting about 30 trades in a row against you (martingale in all directions). I was smart enough to try it on a micro account. These 30 trades in a row happened in a week. After that I realized the market is willing to do anything to take your money).

The new version, even without a tester, is enough just to make an estimate in your mind.

1. we take the average volatility of the euro pound on the history

2. Average number of simultaneously opened positions of averaging.

3. Calculate the drawdown at extremely unfavorable hypothetical movement against this bed.

We look how much it is (for example, in case of sharp fall of 100 points at 5 open positions).It turns out about 10% of the depo. It is not critical.

 
Figar0:

In general, you villagers have one serious problem: no one has a clear idea of what to do with unprofitable trades if they suddenly freeze up. I downloaded a couple of EAs from this thread and had a look. I have seen even the Expert Advisor posted here by a very experienced guy who has the same problem. If the price jumps within the corridor - everything is OK, but if there is an unexpected move, it is fucked.

Such strategies can be used if you gamble for 100 rubles, you get lucky and get a thousand, if you are unlucky, nothing. Ice cream + McDonalds + a girl to the movies if you're lucky, no - you'll do without a movie, I'll talk you into it. As soon as the amount is significant, the EA in the tester immediately tells the trader - do not trade that way.

You cannot drag losses to infinity. Think better about this subject.

What can we say for sure about the martin?

1. he will definitely lose, sooner or later.
2. He will steadily earn until he loses.

Suppose a particular EA fails no more than 4 times a year for 10 years. The size of the loss = $2500 (it is possible to say he closes his positions at reaching this deficit). With stable earnings, the same owl makes $ 2500 for 2 months. Given the conditions that owls will start immediately after the plum we have for the year:

-$10000 on plums, and 2500x6=$15000 profit for the rest of the time, 15000-10000=5000. This owls I think you can call profitable.

Moral of the fable: the plums are not a problem, as long as the profits cover them.

(apologies for the grammatical errors).