[Archive c 17.03.2008] Humour [Archive to 28.04.2012] - page 274
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6tEnNlHl4
There you go, I'm beginning to see why Star Wars doesn't excite me in any way, because it's fantastically primitive.
Quite right, but don't jump to conclusions...)
There's a discussion of this and other ...
I opened the last chapter of the book to find out why "Melchizedek" happened. I read the author's explanation. I was a bit taken aback.
Then I read the "professional mathematician's" explanations of the same afftar's arithmetical efforts. That's right. Only such "professional mathematicians" can read such books in all seriousness. Apparently this one, the author of the final conclusion of the "problem", teaches arithmetic to first graders and managed to skip all maths and physics classes at the university. But that's not what's so annoying, what's so annoying is that such people are reputed among ordinary people as real professionals and their opinion forms the general conclusion, final and irrevocable. With what kind of microscope does one have to measure the average level of this public?
But I did become interested in the origins of the "problem" under discussion and found an appropriate place in the book. The ease with which the author operates with all kinds of concepts there, as well as with which he throws all kinds of fundamental assertions and conclusions, is simply ecstatic. Started reeling back, from mathematics to materialism, from materialism to Marx and Engels. Couldn't go any further. Totally agree with Integer about the book, but would like to add. It seems that the author is not familiar not only with the notion of black holes, but with any notion at all! Whatever he undertakes only one thing comes out - his superficial subjective opinion about a subject which has no relation to knowledge of it, to understanding of the essence and even to the known facts which are difficult to argue. What does it all matter ? For someone who really wants to express himself, it doesn't.
I think that this "book" can safely be put on a par with the writings of that clever man, who scribbles all sorts of messages on behalf of the KON. Such texts can be used only to train high school students in independent thinking and the ability to separate the grains from the chaff.
Well, I enjoyed the book. In spite of the many inflections and unsubstantiated statements. This is exactly where independent thinking is needed. It is needed everywhere, even when reading the most "explanatory" book, if it is not an explanatory dictionary or the telephone directory. It is not scientific literature, for the moment, not a guide, not a handbook, but a kind of logical construction, a fiction, a reflection on the world, erroneous as any other possible...
And what are the concepts? The concept of a black hole... A conditional description of a conditional object that no one will ever see, due to its own conditional properties, and it is not known if it even exists... )) Is it necessary to cling to the correctness of this "concept" and, in general, very many concepts, especially when it comes to the independence of one's own concepts...
I opened the last chapter of the book to find out why "Melchizedek". I read the author's explanation. I was a bit taken aback.
....
Such texts can only be used to train high school students in independent thinking and the ability to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Quite interesting in a similar vein.
http://year-2012.narod.ru/whappen12.html
And by the way I found clues to some mysteries accumulated in my life. That's how it is.
It is not a question of the correctness of concepts, but, on the contrary, of incorrectness. This fellow's method is inadequate. Some name is taken, to which in science, or in philosophy, or in any other field, there corresponds quite a certain concept. Then this name is attributed a completely arbitrary meaning, which, you see, in the opinion of the author has this concept. And then the criticism begins, or the same arbitrary juggling with this meaning, or some other trick.
Nykhtilin's fierce battle with materialism illustrates this well. Starting from arrogant slapping of ancient Greek philosophers on their cheeks, shoulders and other places, a couple of vulgar jokes about Marx-Engels, through worthy of a magician replacement of the thesis "matter is primary" with the thesis "matter is eternal", invented by Nuchtilin himself concept ".real infinity", very evident finiteness of all existing from his point of view (by the way, in Nyukhtilin's world it seems to be so), mountain of nonsense about mathematics, he finally comes to absolutely incontestable conclusion - there cannot be anything infinite in reality! Neither in the sense of space, nor in the sense of time, nor in any other sense. So there is nothing eternal. And therefore matter cannot be eternal either. It cannot be at all.
That's the power of ordinary consciousness! Just like that, easily, right out of the sleeve, anything is always at your service. And all because all traditional (as he calls it) explanations, all efforts of his predecessors to refute materialism, turns out not to satisfy the author. Apparently because of their lack of evidentiary power. They were weak, those predecessors.
The only pity is that this thinker (with a capital 'ME') never asked himself a question: how is it that he, Nyuhtilin, so finite and definitely constituting only a part (rather insignificant) of the whole, takes it upon himself to prove something about the whole. For example, that it cannot be infinite. Simply it cannot, that's all. Because he, Nykhtilin, cannot imagine such a thing, so it is so. And he doesn't care about Gödel.
And he doesn't care about Russell. So what if Russell said that there is no constructive way to prove or disprove the existence of God. And Nuchtilin, with only the force of his logical intellect, in just a few pages, between anecdotes and lies, without any philosophical tricks, natural scientific arguments or axiomatic constructions proved that there is no matter (in the sense as a primary source). That means there is a God!
And he does not care about common sense either. And common sense says - mind your own business, mind your own business. Nyukhtilin himself states this principle more than once in his book. One trouble - only in relation to other people. Alas, he himself does not follow it. This is his misconceptions about what to do and how to do it.
It's not about getting the concepts right, it's just the opposite, it's about getting them wrong.
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It is his wrong notions about what to do and how to do it.
imho, there are no "wrong": a) hypotheses; b) solutions; c) concepts (perceptions) .
There never are and never can be.
It's not about getting the concepts right, it's just the opposite, it's about getting them wrong.
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It is his wrong notions about what he should do and how.
:)) I don't know your life experience.
It would be advisable to take this topic of conversation out of this thread. Maybe it would be useful to create a new one. It's called humor. Or is it humour and I don't recognise it?
Robert Silverberg. The Sixth Palace - "Clear definition has no value and depth of knowledge is not dependent on logic?"