What are netizens disliked for? - page 3

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"The only thing that bothers me in a gridiron is the franc event, if it turns out not to be in the "right" direction, then goodbye depo, but on the other hand, even a stop with one position on the account will not have time to trigger in such a situation, and the end result will be the same )"
In that case there are no complaints about the grid ))
 
If an entry is made by placing N orders with a certain step, each with a volume of L/N, then this can give some advantages compared to an entry with one order with a volume of L. For example: if we make a mistake with the direction, we may have N times less losses, as we can cancel orders that have not been triggered (stop loss should be smaller than the step).
 

Grids, martingales, locking are all tools, some people can work with them, others cannot. Probably 97% of cases people fail to work not only with such tools, but in general for several simple reasons:

Lack of discipline

Regular / daily changes of trading strategy

Greed and desire to get a billion, at most tomorrow.

And others.

For my practice I have clearly learned that there is no scalping on forex, people come for BABLY and try to scrape by 0.000000000001 point of profit. (Attributing, scalping in forex, to the great fallacy. IMHO)

As a "youngster" my record in scalping is 93 profitable deals in a row, and one unprofitable one, which has swiped all profits )))))

Scalping in forex comes with a huge number of profitable trades and small profits and a small number of losing trades with huge losses.

Scalping by its very nature cannot be applied in highly volatile, decentralised markets . IMHO

 
Artyom Trishkin:

From my experience why I hate them: I didn't make them for myself, I wouldn't even think of such a perversion, but for customers I would kill them... I call it chasing the price:

I call it a rush for the price: "First of all I will place a marker and then twenty more markers, with pitch depending on price (I say everything is calculated!), and if the third one has not worked, I will remove it, and all the ones above/below, and move them with another pitch - everything is calculated too (how could it not!).If it didn't work, then let's place another grid (in case it works there), and if it worked, then delete everything, and then go back, but with another lot, depending on the profit, let's do ten more steps. We will track the third from the top, the second from the bottom, and opposite from the side. And if it does not work, or in deficit, we will increase a lot, depending on the quantity and quality, and set there another ten orders, plus the bottom in the reverse, but with a double lot - I've counted everything - the maths rules! ".

I'd fucking kill them...

Prick.
 
Vladimir Pastushak:

Grids, martingales, locking are all tools, some people can work with them and some can't

+100

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- how does a martingale differ from a non-martingale?

- With a martingale the lot size (risk) is determined not by analyzing the market situation (trading strategy), but by counting losing trades. I.e. purely mechanically.

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- how does a grid differ from a non-grid?

- In a grid entry (risk) is determined not from the analysis of the market situation (TS), but by calculating the distance from the previous entry. That is, purely mechanically

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If the analysis (TS) shows that there is an opportunity to double the lot - this is not a Martin, but trade with the trend

If the TS says that the price passes the XX pip and must go the same way YY or ZZ back - this is not a grid, but a breakout/bounce catching

So what is the difference then? In the sense of proportion :)

 

The relevance can be judged by the number of real EAs using the grid and trading positively.

There are many such systems on the Internet, and strangely enough many of them manage to trade for several years.

This gives grids the right to live in spite of their riskiness.

 
Izzatilla Ikramov:

Dear Artem and Alexei,

Let's not worry about what you cannot change, concentrate on what you can change, as Tracey said.

Why get angry and irritated - when you can just ignore and not participate in further work to test the stress tolerance of your nervous system.

:))

Thank you, I have already made a clear decision - I will not take orders in the form of a gridiron. For myself, I will not do them. It especially kills me to place 20 orders and then move the furthest one. For fuck's sake????? Why place it and then move it closer to the price? And it's just a prerequisite... Fuck, to move - it makes the system look more serious... I'm asking a question: maybe not to put it so far away at all? And in general - why 20 pieces when three or four is more than enough (the rest can be added as they are triggered)... No, fuck - you have to have 20 up and 20 down. And then you have to mix them all together in a fucking weird algorithm... # Fucking retarded #

 
Sergii Krutyi:

The relevance can be judged by the number of real EAs using the grid and trading positively.

I am working with my opponent's code and my programmer should know that I am already working with some simple trading systems.

This gives grids the right to live, even if they are risky.

I am doing a class on working with grids now and I have an idea to extend the types of pending orders. Of course, they will be virtual and will be executed on the client's side. They will be executed as market ones, at occurrence of necessary conditions or as standard pending orders, if that is possible according to the algorithm.

There are four types of pending orders in MT4 now, in MT5 there are six. Can you suggest your own variants? Because I know that other brokerage platforms, especially stock ones, have other types of orders.

And also, I'm making a panel to test all this kitchen, I can lay it out for tests. But I want to warn, it is in C#, so it is not suitable for those who fear for safety. Or you have to run it on a virtual machine. Connection with the Expert Advisor is through common files. I am using Sharpe purely for the speed of development.

 
Artyom Trishkin:

:))

Thank you, I've already made a clear decision for myself not to take orders in the form of a gridiron. I will not do them for myself. It especially kills me to place 20 orders and then move the furthest one. For fuck's sake????? Why place it and then move it closer to the price? And it's just a prerequisite... Fuck, to move - it makes the system look more serious... I'm asking a question: maybe not to put it so far away at all? And in general - why 20 pieces when three or four is more than enough (the rest can be added as they are triggered)... No, fuck - you have to have 20 up and 20 down. And then you have to mix them all together in a fucking algorithm... # Fucking retarded #

Thanks for the wise decision, one less competitor )) I think the long range orders are put in anticipation of a strong move on the news.

By the way, I should check if the modification time of pending order is less than the opening time. If it is significantly less, it makes sense to keep the pool of pending orders for news and, if necessary, move the orders to the working range.

I will check this hypothesis today and report back.

 
Sergii Krutyi:

The relevance can be judged by the number of real EAs using the grid and trading positively .

That's right, but how do we know how many?
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