Which is more important - the entrance or the exit? Is the entry point even important? Is the exit point even important? - page 4

 
TheXpert:


Two polarities without explanation ) can you explain?

What is there to explain?

Simplify to three states:

1. Assume growth

2. Assuming fall.

3. the hell knows.

In the first case, we buy; in the second, we sell; in the third, if there is no position, we do not do anything; if there is, we exit.


It is necessary to find the first two. But the third one is hard to get wrong.

 
paukas:

What is there to describe?

Simplify to three states:

1. Assume growth

2. Assuming fall.

3. the hell knows.

In the first case, we buy; in the second, we sell; in the third, if there is no position, we do not do anything, and if there is, we exit.


We have to find the first two. But it is difficult to make a mistake with the third.

to simplify things further, half of the losers come when guessing the direction, the other half when making an incorrect prediction. "guessing" a rise / fall is not enough.
 
TheXpert:

Sat )

Interested in an opinion on all three questions, preferably with an intelligible explanation of why.

The answer should not depend on the trading system used.

I will give my opinion later) if necessary.


Why guess, you can check it. Take a system and enter with a delay of N bars and see how the PF and MO change as the delay increases. Then the same for the exit. From the change of what the profitability of the system decreases more, what is more important for it. Everything can be done with the standard MT tester, displaying N as an opt
 
sever32:
...half of the moose come when the direction is guessed, the other half when the forecast is wrong. ...
I don't understand shit, so I can't argue with that.
 
paukas:
I don't understand shit, so I can't argue back.

but if you read to the end?

sever32:
"assume" a rise, a fall is not enough.
 
paukas:

What is there to explain?

Simplify to three states:

1. Assume growth

2. Assuming fall.

3. the hell knows.

In the first case, we buy; in the second, we sell; in the third, if there is no position, we do not give a shit, and if there is, we exit.


You have to find the first two. It's hard to go wrong with the third.

That's very well put.

and free of charge, which is weird...

;)

 
sever32:

What if you read to the end?

Not enough? Greed leads to poverty. That's enough.
 
TheXpert:
Or does the system depend on the answer?
No - it depends on the system. Not every system can be tested separately for input and output.
 
paukas:

What's there to describe?

Simplify to three states:


Try simplifying this one: with an N% probability of growth before the start of the next day. :)
 
Azzx:
Try simplifying this one: with an N% probability of growth before the start of the next day. :)
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