LET'S FIND OUT WHO HAS LOST THE MOST MONEY ON THE FOREX MARKET AND FOR HOW LONG !!!! - page 9

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IgorM:

Yes absolutely, if your TS is a clear algorithm of actions - and does not take into account the real economy/world trends, etc.

then uniquely, such a trading strategy will at times lose - because I managed to find the perfect entry into the market, but to find the perfect exit with a profit is not possible for one reason - no one knows the volatility of the pair in the current market - you can find a broker who will show you the market rate, you can see yesterday's movement of the currency pair, but no one knows whether there are buyers and sellers today on this currency pair that can shift the market supply and demand in the absence of expected economic news and global trends

in short - a banal flat, no one can predict, we may assume that after a strong growth/decline there will be a temporary lull and nothing more.


What if the TS is a clear algorithm and can work both on the trend and on the flat?

don't you believe?

 
sllawa3:
Optimization is first of all - fitting to the history... ( i.e., pulling on the ears ) its only benefit is defining the average-static behaviour of the chosen pair...


No! If you sell an Expert Advisor, yes, but if you develop it by yourself and understand how it works, no.

it's not just about volatility... it's also about filling with ticks... ( tick density ) and deviation... ... and a lot of unpredictable surprises from market and brokerage...

No! I use ticks myself - learn to filter them - there are ticks that will break stops, and there are ticks that form a trend
 
NiKkel:

Pegasmaster:

Well, it looks like you and sllawa3 already know everything, and you defend your points of view and don't want to listen to anything but say that forex is crap and you can't become a millionaire here. I can't change your mind.


Did I say such a thing? When and where?


"You know, it's a lot of crap. learning how to trade in 10,000 hours, that's not even a guarantee of success.
"out of the 19 rules i use 4. the rest are bullshit."
"How much is real? Can you give me a scale - from and to real, higher - not real?"

From your posts it seemed to me that you are sceptical about further training and about the idea of making money from forex in general.
If this is not the case, please excuse me. Personally, I believe that any business requires serious training, approach and attitude. Which I have, in fact, voiced.
You do realise that there is no scale of earnings in forex.

 
NiKkel:


Whatever with the vending machines.

the idea - you're lying on a chaise lounge by a pool in, say, a villa in Greece, drinking a cold beer, snacking on lobsters deep-fried in a deep fryer, while he's out there mooching and making money for you

the idea is great as a money printing press... but if there was just one machine like that, there wouldn't be any d.c...
 
Pegasmaster:

From your posts it seemed to me that you were sceptical about further training and about the idea of making money from forex in general.

you are mistaken. Forex exists, so someone is making money from it.

 
NiKkel:


Of course... casinos exist too... and guess who's making money there...!
 
Nibbler:


I want to trade for real

suggest a dc with 5$ from the office

http://www.google.ru/search?hl=ru&source=hp&q=marketiva&aq=0&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=Marketiva&gs_rfai=
May the moderators forgive me, I have not even put up my ref link - I do not see the point of pulling pennies

if you are just learning, take this cent account as wealth with 5$ = 500 c

NiKkkel:


If the TS is a clear algorithm and can work both on a trend and on the flat?

don't you believe me?

I believe only in what I see, but I see only on the history - like a flat, but at the same time, according to my TS - for the advisor I always open orders when there are signals of a trend - in a flat it leads to a small loss, but at the same time - if the trend starts, I enter in fact at the very top - conclusion: if not to open orders, there will be nothing to close
 
NiKkel:

you are mistaken. Forex exists, so someone is making money from it
I know, I just thought you didn't ;)
 
IgorM:


I only believe in what I see, but I only see it on the history - like a flat, but at the same time, according to my TS - for the Expert Advisor I always open orders when there are trend signals - during a flat it leads to a small loss, but at the same time - if the trend starts, I actually enter at the very top - the conclusion is: if not to open orders, then there is nothing to close

You touched on a very important topic - the subjectivity of defining trends and flat.

For my TS they do not need to be defined and singled out.


 
IgorM:

In short - no one can predict a banal flat, we can assume that after a strong rise/decline there will be a temporary lull and no more

Nobody forbids to detect it and to suspend trade, having lost on one-two transactions, no more.
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