"The 'perfect' trading system - page 2

 
Angela >> :

Put your stops at a normal level, and the result will be just the opposite.


Actually, the market makers are only too happy to see as many traders as possible putting their stops at a "normal level" :)

You have to be "abnormal" to make money, because all the other "normal" 95% of traders are losing.

 
LeoV >> :

How does it adapt to the market? It doesn't seem to be adapting much on your PAMM.....


PAMM again :)

PAMM is a different project, much more complex and it's more likely that we haven't adapted to PAMM yet than PAMM to the market :)

 
VictorArt писал(а) >>

PAMM again :)

PAMM is another project, much more complicated and we have not yet adapted to PAMM, rather than PAMM to the market :)

So ...... there is no joy in life...... all on screens, yes on paper...... but in real life we "have not yet adapted" .......)))))

 
LeoV >> :

Well...... there is no joy in life...... all on screens, yes on paper...... in real life "haven't adapted yet" .......)))))


Here are the trades of the adaptive advisor UmnickTrader V2M3P2 on PAMM:

11837098 2009.09.21 09:43 buy 0.01 eurusd 1.46590 1.44516 1.46734 2009.09.21 17:09 1.46734 0.00 0.00 0.00 43.59
11837100 2009.09.21 09:43 buy 0.01 eurusd 1.46592 1.44518 1.47032 2009.09.22 02:45 1.47032 0.00 0.00 -0.27 133.17
12198934 2009.10.14 00:00 buy 0.02 eurusd 1.48524 1.46424 1.48679 2009.10.14 03:41 1.48679 0.00 0.00 0.00 91.28
12198940 2009.10.14 00:00 buy 0.01 eurusd 1.48524 1.46424 1.49054 2009.10.14 11:03 1.49054 0.00 0.00 0.00 155.45

No other entries since the launch.
 
VictorArt писал(а) >>

Here are the trades of UmnickTrader V2M3P2 adaptive advisor on PAMM:

11837098 2009.09.21 09:43 buy 0.01 eurusd 1.46590 1.44516 1.46734 2009.09.21 17:09 1.46734 0.00 0.00 0.00 43.59
11837100 2009.09.21 09:43 buy 0.01 eurusd 1.46592 1.44518 1.47032 2009.09.22 02:45 1.47032 0.00 0.00 -0.27 133.17
12198934 2009.10.14 00:00 buy 0.02 eurusd 1.48524 1.46424 1.48679 2009.10.14 03:41 1.48679 0.00 0.00 0.00 91.28
12198940 2009.10.14 00:00 buy 0.01 eurusd 1.48524 1.46424 1.49054 2009.10.14 11:03 1.49054 0.00 0.00 0.00 155.45

No other entries since the launch.

You know, four deals are four deals, not history...... so what's there to say? - I DON'T KNOW. But congratulations on four profitable trades!!! Although the pamm is down.......

 
VictorArt писал(а) >>

Actually, the market makers are only too happy to see as many traders as possible putting their stops on a "normal level" :)

To make money you have to be "abnormal" because all the other "normal" 95% of traders successfully lose.

For me the drawdown limit is 6% on constant lot, in the expectation that with MM it can increase up to 10%. If the TS is designed optimally, then "normal stops" won't lead to a loss, although I think for me the stop is needed only in force majeure situations and in the rest the TS should work with the market and the opening and closing moments are determined by the strategy and the level of maximum allowable risk. For my systems I set depending on the phase of the trend (i.e. if TS opens with trend or against the trend reversal) about 50 and 20 pips on M5 GBPUSD respectively, and if at these limits of risk a drawdown is greater than 6% or profit factor is less than 4 - TS is rejected. But this is an individual case.

 
Angela >> :

For me the drawdown limit is 6% on a constant lot, with the expectation that it can increase up to 10% with MM. If the TS is designed optimally, then "normal stops" will not lead to a loss, although I think for myself that the stop is needed only in force majeure situations, and in the rest of the TS should work with the market, and the opening and closing moments are determined by the strategy and the level of the specified maximum allowable risk. For my systems I set depending on the phase of the trend (i.e. if TS opens with trend or against the trend reversal) about 50 and 20 pips on M5 GBPUSD respectively, and if at these limits of risk a drawdown is greater than 6% or profit factor is less than 4 - TS is rejected. But this is an individual case.


Can you view the Statment with such a drawdown and such a P&F?

It means I believe that on the history you will get such parameters, but in reality - I don't believe, except occasionally.

>> "TS opens along the trend or on a pullback against the trend" - this phrase tells me that you still believe that the future can be predicted :)

 
LeoV >> :

You know, four deals are four deals, not history...... so what's there to say? - I DON'T KNOW. But congratulations on four profitable trades!!! Although the pamm is in deficit.......


You know, it's not the trades, it's the repeatability of the result.
 
VictorArt писал(а) >>

You know, it's not about the deals, it's about the repeatability of the result.

Four trades can be used to judge the repeatability of the result?

 
Angela писал(а) >>

For me the drawdown limit is 6% on a constant lot, with the expectation that it can increase up to 10% with MM. If the TS is designed optimally, then "normal stops" will not lead to a loss, although I think for myself that the stop is needed only in force majeure situations, and in the rest of the TS should work with the market, and the opening and closing moments are determined by the strategy and the level of the specified maximum allowable risk. For my systems I set depending on the phase of the trend (i.e. if TS opens with trend or against the trend reversal) about 50 and 20 pips on M5 GBPUSD respectively, and if at these limits of risk a drawdown is greater than 6% or profit factor is less than 4 - TS is rejected. But this is an individual case.

Do not pour water on the mantel. >> 6% of what? State the size of the deposit, the lot and the number of trades.
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