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Some brokers charge a commission for every copy of the terminal. For example on the bx website it says that if you have less than 30k on your account they will deduct 300 rubles from your account every month. For an additional terminal they also take a fee.
Is it more profitable and safer to trade in futures and securities than in forex?
On the trader's tools site almost everything is paid, do they really bring profit?
It turns out that trading futures and securities is much more profitable and safer than forex?
On the Trader's Tools website almost everything is paid for, do they really make a profit?
read... the quotes on the demo account are different from the real ones...
And in general, I think that if they're different, they're not very different.
very big difference as in the very course of quotes - there are sharp jumps, - kill everything. The quotes themselves differ from the real figures. The quotes themselves are different from the real numbers. (futures + stocks)
Can I do this then:
Open a real account and put a very small amount of money into it, which is not enough to open even one contract.
Will I have access to real quotes and will I be able to test the Expert Advisor with real data in strategy tester mode?
You pay money for inactivity, there will be a commission of something like 500p. If you make trades, the commission will drop to 100+p.
you pay money for inactivity, there will be a commission of something around 500p. if you make trades, the commission drops to 100+p.
Read... the quotes on the demo account are different from the real ones because we are so stupid that we can't even make a normal price quote on the demo :)
In general, I think that if the quotes in the demo accounts differ from the real ones, because we are such fools, we can't even make a normal quote in the demo because we are so stupid and don't even allow simultaneous access to stocks and futures, we will take additional fees.
In general, I think that if they are different, then not very much. They give the demo for one month only, and even then you have to register on the site and then the manager starts to call and write letters. In short "all for people". In bx, the demo is for an indefinite period, you can open it there.
It is very simple: the right holder of quotes is exchanges, which set the price of quotes for each user (personally for each active account or in packages), including strict conditions for data use and retransmission. There are very few exchanges in the world that provide free price quotes in real time.
In fact, the broker has to pay the exchange a monthly commission for all his active traders. If a trader makes a certain minimum turnover, the broker usually takes this commission, sparing the trader from small commissions. As a result traders have a mass impression that the quotes are free (especially if you do not read the contract with the broker and various addendums to it in full).
From this there is a simple conclusion that shows the reason of discrepancy between demo and real in exchange instruments. The broker will not be held financially and legally responsible for giving out other people's paid quotes to an unlimited number of users. This is an encroachment on one of the sources of income of stock exchanges, which is punishable by law. Legal claims and proceedings of this nature are ongoing and are not made public. Brokers are well aware of this and ensure legal clarity. Unfortunately, some brokers, due to ignorance of the legal basics or the zeal of technicians, make mistakes that lead to legal wrangling.
There are two main methods of solving the problem of providing a demo for exchange data:
Personally I am always in favour of moving to free quotes on exchanges, which will give a major boost to the popularization of trading and increase turnover. In exchange trading it is high time we had a couple of revolutions and free price streams are one of them. But this will not happen in the near future because of the boneheadedness of the exchanges.
Most exchanges (not monsters) by their commissions for price flows do not even recoup the cost of its maintenance (technical, legal, accounting, psychological), keep their clients in black gloves, scare third-party developers and actually put an end to their growth potential. I'm sure that in most cases the fee-for-quote is unprofitable for the exchanges. Yes, most managers think it isn't, but only from the fact that they don't realise what the total cost and opportunity cost is.
The problem is exacerbated by the fact that there has long been a total consolidation of exchanges around the world. The methodical takeover of regional exchanges by the monsters will eventually lead (in fact, has already led) to oligopoly and ironclad cementing of current conditions or even stricter rules.
It's very simple: the owner of the stock quotes are exchanges
If you only use a tester connected to a demo account, will the real ticks in the tester be from a demo or a real account?
For all brokers, is it possible to make the tester always have ticks from a real account when connected to a demo? Because there is no point in keeping the demo ticks.
If you only use a tester connected to a demo account, will the real ticks in the tester be from a demo or a real account?
For all brokers, is it possible to make the tester always have ticks from a real account when connected to a demo? Because there is no sense to store demo ticks.
No. The entire market environment must depend only on the data of the current trade server to which the terminal is connected.
For MOEX, we will soon provide accurate tick history data on our server MetaQuotes-Demo, which will allow to easily test trading robots.
The data comes only from the server, to which the trading terminal is connected. If the account is a demo account the data comes only from the current demo server.
No. The entire market environment should only depend on the data of the current trading server to which the terminal is connected.
For MOEX, we will soon present accurate tick history data (without riltime) on our MetaQuotes-Demo server, which will allow you to easily test your trading robots.
In the BuyLimit tester will the order be triggered by Ask or Bid?
Of course on Ask.
Check it yourself, it's not difficult.