Discussion of article "How to Order an Expert Advisor and Obtain the Desired Result" - page 6

 
denkir:

P.S. There are decent developers in Freelance. But unfortunately their competitive advantages (experience, quality, expertise, etc.) are often levelled by dumping agents and incompetence of the customer....

Recently discussed this topic again in a similar thread.

I believe that a worthy performer will find his customer. But expressed different opinions )

ps: btw, so together and discussed

 
Good evening. Can you tell me, if I include directly in the TOR file the information about the deadline agreed between me and the programmer (I consider the deadline to be the moment when I receive the finished EA, not the layout, of course), can I use this information as a way to cancel the order through arbitration in case of failure to complete the work on time? I can also include in the TOR information that I will, for example, daily (at least once a day) to get in touch to answer all the questions of the programmer, etc., etc., etc. So, in short, if I create my own little regulation directly in the ToR, protecting both my rights and the rights of the programmer, of course, having agreed it with the programmer (logically, he should read the file of the ToR), can it become a legal basis for my defence? Well, honestly, I'm tired of those who say one thing and do another ... In fact, the programmer is obliged to study the TOR carefully before agreeing to the customer's conditions, and if something is not clear to him or seems impossible, he is obliged to tell about it at once, in the process of studying the TOR, and not in the process of execution. Again, I can include this in my regulations too. The only question is whether the service will consider creating its own regulations as something unlawful? As practice shows, most programmers agree to do the work on any terms just to tell the customer what he wants to hear and get his consent to do the work. I am tired of draining money on such programmers. I am waiting for an answer to the question. Thank you.
 
Eduard Minosian:
It's enough to ask the question in one thread.
 
Andrey Khatimlianskii:
Remember! The programmer is not responsible for the profitability of your strategy, his task is to write a programme that will work according to the algorithm approved by you.
100%
 
Eduard Minosian:
Good evening. Can you tell me, if I include directly in the TOR file the information about the deadline agreed between me and the programmer (I consider the deadline to be the moment when I receive the finished EA, not the layout, of course), can I use this information as a way to cancel the order through arbitration in case of failure to complete the work on time? I can also include in the TOR information that I will, for example, daily (at least once a day) to get in touch to answer all questions of the programmer, etc. etc. etc. So, in short, if I create my own little regulation directly in the ToR, protecting both my rights and the rights of the programmer, of course, having agreed it with the programmer (logically, he should read the file of the ToR), can it become a legal basis for my defence? Well, honestly, I'm tired of those who say one thing and do another ... In fact, the programmer is obliged to study the TOR carefully before agreeing to the customer's conditions, and if something is not clear to him or seems impossible, he is obliged to tell about it at once, in the process of studying the TOR, and not in the process of execution. Again, I can include this in my regulations too. The only question is whether the service will consider creating its own regulations as something unlawful? As practice shows, most programmers agree to do the work on any terms just to tell the customer what he wants to hear and get his consent to do the work. I am tired of draining money on such programmers. I am waiting for an answer to the question. Thank you.

Here is the paradox:

The more fully you answer all the questions, the more chance that I will work with you, both on this TOR and on the next one. At the same time, please do not write to me and do not leave requests for work if:

1. You are not satisfied that I choose a programmer from several programmers.

2. You want to quickly snatch money at any price and then throw me, leaving me with a robot, which then again no one will not want to fix.

3. You want to talk to someone about something.

4. You don't know how to meet the deadlines you name.

https://www.mql5.com/ru/job/38355 

You don't really have a choice.
 
Eduard Minosian:
Good evening. Can you tell me, if I include directly in the TOR file the information about the deadline agreed between me and the programmer (I consider the deadline to be the moment when I receive the finished EA, not the layout, of course), can I use this information as a way to cancel the order through arbitration in case of failure to complete the work on time? I can also include in the TOR information that I will, for example, daily (at least once a day) to get in touch to answer all questions of the programmer, etc. etc. etc. So, in short, if I create my own little regulation directly in the ToR, protecting both my rights and the rights of the programmer, of course, having agreed it with the programmer (logically, he should read the file of the ToR), can it become a legal basis for my defence? Well, honestly, I'm tired of those who say one thing and do another ... In fact, the programmer is obliged to study the TOR carefully before agreeing to the customer's conditions, and if something is not clear to him or seems impossible, he is obliged to tell about it at once, in the process of studying the TOR, and not in the process of execution. Again, I can include this in my regulations too. The only question is whether the service will consider creating its own regulations as something unlawful? As practice shows, most programmers agree to do the work on any terms just to tell the customer what he wants to hear and get his consent to do the work. I am tired of draining money on such programmers. I am waiting for an answer to the question. Thanks.

100% you can, I would include it by all means

I'm very principled and attentive to the time of task execution.

and even though I have only 4 completed tasks, I've never been overdue and I'm not going to be overdue.

- At least it's not my fault.


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there's the other side of the moon.

Let me say that I personally have not had such a situation yet.

1 the customer has chosen the contractor

2 TOR were agreed - amount and term were agreed - let's say term was set 1 day

3 The programmer started the work - and completed it in an hour - and notified the customer via the service.

4 Then any of the scenarios happens, the customer is busy, went on holiday, went on holiday.

It does not matter the reason, he did not respond to the evening did not respond in the morning and evening of the second day and in general for 3 days disappeared.

As a result, the programmer gets a delay in work.

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By the way, the other side of the moon - the customer falls on the programmer who does not perform the work on time.

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and such cases are not uncommon judging by the profiles of freelancers.

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It would be right to separate the time accounting of the CUSTOMER and the EXECUTOR.

We should collectively ask MetaQuotes for this.

 

Very Good! 

That was thorough and nicely explained!

I have already written an Algorithm (re: a description of what I require, in layman's terms).

Everything is in place and it was good to see what you wrote was in line with what I have ready to go.

Now I need to connect with a programmer!

Thanks!

 
TenKeiTrader:

Very Good! 

That was thorough and nicely explained!

I have already written an Algorithm (re: a description of what I require, in layman's terms).

Everything is in place and it was good to see what you wrote was in line with what I have ready to go.

Now I need to connect with a programmer!

Thanks

 
Eduard Minosian:
Good evening. Can you tell me, if I include directly in the TOR file the information about the deadline agreed between me and the programmer (I consider the deadline to be the moment when I receive the finished EA, not the layout, of course), can I use this information as a way to cancel the order through arbitration in case of failure to complete the work on time? I can also include in the TOR information that I will, for example, daily (at least once a day) to get in touch to answer all the questions of the programmer, etc., etc., etc. So, in short, if I createmy own little regulation directly in the ToR, protecting both my rights and the rights of the programmer, of course, having agreed it with the programmer (logically, he should read the file of the ToR), can it become a legal basis for my defence? Well, honestly, I'm tired of those who say one thing and do another ... In fact, the programmer is obliged to study the TOR carefully before agreeing to the customer's conditions, and if something is not clear to him or seems impossible, he is obliged to tell about it at once, in the process of studying the TOR, and not in the process of execution. Again, I can include this in my regulations too. The only question is whether the service will consider creating its own regulations as something unlawful? As practice shows, most programmers agree to do the work on any terms just to tell the customer what he wants to hear and get his consent to do the work. I am tired of draining money on such programmers. I am waiting for an answer to the question. Thank you.

If you do this, then the file will cease to be a Technical Assignment, and you will not be perceived as a normal customer.

 

Hello,

what is really very bad and to the disadvantage of the customer is the following situation:

A developer is asked with a project.

This examines the project and gives a positive promise.

In good faith, the customer starts the project request and uploads the money via his credit card.

Now he waits for the developer's confirmation, but the developer no longer responds (maybe he died).

Now the customer's money is at mql5.com and the customer does not want to run the project with any other developer, because he has mostly negative experiences.

The customer has now no chance to get his money back?