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Walter Birklbauer  
I put up for discussion that these angle values are incorrect. I have compared them with several other indicators, including the Pro MA Angle, which provides zoom-independent angle values via the data window.
Moreover, the approach of not clearly stating in the description that the bonus indicator does not meet expectations is somewhat reminiscent of bazaar tactics.

Davit Beridze  
walter123456 #:
I put up for discussion that these angle values are incorrect. I have compared them with several other indicators, including the Pro MA Angle, which provides zoom-independent angle values via the data window.
Moreover, the approach of not clearly stating in the description that the bonus indicator does not meet expectations is somewhat reminiscent of bazaar tactics.

Dear Customer Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts, and I want to clarify some points regarding your review. First and foremost, I understand your concern about the "angle accuracy" and its behavior with zoom levels. It's crucial to distinguish between the two indicators you mentioned: "MA Speedometer" (the paid indicator you received as a gift from my goodwill): This indicator, as you correctly observed, is sensitive to chart zoom levels because of how MT4 internally calculates angles from visible chart coordinates. This is a known characteristic for any indicator that calculates angles directly based on pixel distances on the chart. Due to this, as a general rule in technical analysis, it's recommended to avoid constant zooming when evaluating angles derived this way. "Ma_Speed" (the base and Bonus indicator for the Dashboard you purchased): As explicitly stated in the product description and shown in the screenshots, the Dashboard is built upon a different, specially designed version of the "MA Speedometer" concept. This "Ma_Speed" indicator uses a different calculation methodology that is not affected by chart zoom levels. Its angle calculation is based on price points relative to the _Point property, ensuring consistency regardless of your chart's zoom setting. This is why it serves as the reliable base for the Dashboard's multi-symbol and multi-timeframe analysis. My intention in providing you with the "MA Speedometer" (the first indicator) as a complimentary bonus was an act of goodwill, thinking it might offer additional value or insights. However, it appears there was a misunderstanding, and you were comparing the Dashboard's readings (which come from the zoom-independent "Ma_Speed" indicator) with the zoom-sensitive "MA Speedometer." These are distinct products with different underlying calculation methods for their visual angles. I am always committed to providing clear product descriptions and supporting my users. I believe the description for the Dashboard accurately reflects its functionality and the underlying indicator it uses. The "Ma_Speed" indicator, which the Dashboard is built upon, is indeed designed to provide consistent angle readings, unaffected by zoom. I hope this clarification helps resolve the misunderstanding. If you have any further questions or if there's anything else I can do to assist you with the "Dashboard," please do not hesitate to contact me directly. I am here to ensure you have a positive experience with my products. Sincerely.
Walter Birklbauer  
Davit Beridze #:
Dear Customer Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts, and I want to clarify some points regarding your review. First and foremost, I understand your concern about the "angle accuracy" and its behavior with zoom levels. It's crucial to distinguish between the two indicators you mentioned: "MA Speedometer" (the paid indicator you received as a gift from my goodwill): This indicator, as you correctly observed, is sensitive to chart zoom levels because of how MT4 internally calculates angles from visible chart coordinates. This is a known characteristic for any indicator that calculates angles directly based on pixel distances on the chart. Due to this, as a general rule in technical analysis, it's recommended to avoid constant zooming when evaluating angles derived this way. "Ma_Speed" (the base and Bonus indicator for the Dashboard you purchased): As explicitly stated in the product description and shown in the screenshots, the Dashboard is built upon a different, specially designed version of the "MA Speedometer" concept. This "Ma_Speed" indicator uses a different calculation methodology that is not affected by chart zoom levels. Its angle calculation is based on price points relative to the _Point property, ensuring consistency regardless of your chart's zoom setting. This is why it serves as the reliable base for the Dashboard's multi-symbol and multi-timeframe analysis. My intention in providing you with the "MA Speedometer" (the first indicator) as a complimentary bonus was an act of goodwill, thinking it might offer additional value or insights. However, it appears there was a misunderstanding, and you were comparing the Dashboard's readings (which come from the zoom-independent "Ma_Speed" indicator) with the zoom-sensitive "MA Speedometer." These are distinct products with different underlying calculation methods for their visual angles. I am always committed to providing clear product descriptions and supporting my users. I believe the description for the Dashboard accurately reflects its functionality and the underlying indicator it uses. The "Ma_Speed" indicator, which the Dashboard is built upon, is indeed designed to provide consistent angle readings, unaffected by zoom. I hope this clarification helps resolve the misunderstanding. If you have any further questions or if there's anything else I can do to assist you with the "Dashboard," please do not hesitate to contact me directly. I am here to ensure you have a positive experience with my products. Sincerely.

The product description of the "MA Speedometer Dashboard" contains a fundamental ambiguity that leads to a significant discrepancy between user expectations and the actual functionality—particularly concerning the announced bonus indicator.

The description states: "As a special bonus, customers receive a unique version of the MA Speedometer indicator, which serves as the foundation of the MA Speedometer Dashboard."
This wording clearly suggests that the bonus indicator is technically and visually related to the dashboard. It reasonably creates the expectation that the well-known graphical angle display (such as a semicircle with degree text) is included—or at least not excluded.

Referring to it as the "foundation of the Dashboard" implies it is a functionally and visually reduced standalone version of the dashboard. However, this is not the case: the delivered bonus indicator does not include any graphical angle display.

Nowhere in the description is it clearly stated that visual elements are not part of the bonus indicator. Instead, when concerns are raised, the response is that no screenshot with a semicircle was shown—which only highlights the core issue. An expectation is deliberately left open, only to be reframed later as a misunderstanding. This approach appears strategically calculated and comes at the buyer’s expense.

Additionally, the bonus indicator is not delivered automatically with the purchase but only made available upon direct request to the author—a fact not mentioned in the product description.

Moreover, it is later argued that the bonus indicator uses a completely different calculation method than the known "MA Speedometer" and was specifically adapted to the dashboard. This, too, contradicts the original wording, which describes it as a "version of the MA Speedometer" and the "foundation" of the dashboard. One cannot claim something is the basis of a product while simultaneously stating it follows an entirely different concept. This contradictory reasoning further undermines the credibility of the entire presentation.

Davit Beridze  
walter123456 #:

The product description of the "MA Speedometer Dashboard" contains a fundamental ambiguity that leads to a significant discrepancy between user expectations and the actual functionality—particularly concerning the announced bonus indicator.

The description states: "As a special bonus, customers receive a unique version of the MA Speedometer indicator, which serves as the foundation of the MA Speedometer Dashboard."
This wording clearly suggests that the bonus indicator is technically and visually related to the dashboard. It reasonably creates the expectation that the well-known graphical angle display (such as a semicircle with degree text) is included—or at least not excluded.

Referring to it as the "foundation of the Dashboard" implies it is a functionally and visually reduced standalone version of the dashboard. However, this is not the case: the delivered bonus indicator does not include any graphical angle display.

Nowhere in the description is it clearly stated that visual elements are not part of the bonus indicator. Instead, when concerns are raised, the response is that no screenshot with a semicircle was shown—which only highlights the core issue. An expectation is deliberately left open, only to be reframed later as a misunderstanding. This approach appears strategically calculated and comes at the buyer’s expense.

Additionally, the bonus indicator is not delivered automatically with the purchase but only made available upon direct request to the author—a fact not mentioned in the product description.

Moreover, it is later argued that the bonus indicator uses a completely different calculation method than the known "MA Speedometer" and was specifically adapted to the dashboard. This, too, contradicts the original wording, which describes it as a "version of the MA Speedometer" and the "foundation" of the dashboard. One cannot claim something is the basis of a product while simultaneously stating it follows an entirely different concept. This contradictory reasoning further undermines the credibility of the entire presentation.

instead of writing this illogical texts it would be better for you just to check product description and screens like this which shows what dashboard is based on and what is bonus          

Walter Birklbauer  
Davit Beridze #:

instead of writing this illogical texts it would be better for you just to check product description and screens like this which shows what dashboard is based on and what is bonus          

We're talking about two entirely different things here: On one hand, the dashboard with the included bonus indicator – which is described in a way that suggests a close resemblance to the separately sold standalone indicator MA Speedometer. This creates the impression that you're hitting two birds with one stone – buying the dashboard and getting a fully functional standalone indicator along with it. That is misleading. The bonus indicator does not display any graphical angle at all. Had I known that in advance, I would probably have bought the standalone indicator directly. But even there: there is no mention that the angle display is affected by the zoom level. The angle values change depending on how far in or out the chart is zoomed – and this is not covered in the product description either. Specifically: “A point is taken on the fifteenth MA candle and a point on the last closed MA candle, a straight line is drawn between them... shows an angle of inclination from 90 to -90.” That clearly sounds like a geometrically calculated angle line. Nowhere does it say that the values change depending on chart size or zoom level. It also doesn’t say that the indicator only works correctly when the chart is fixed at a certain scale. Responding with “just check the description and the image” is nothing but a distraction. A screenshot does not replace technical documentation, and an incomplete description remains exactly that: inadequate. 
Davit Beridze  

Again. both indicators show angles correctly! The first one hemisphere just need to be used on one size chart without playing with zoom. Second one also correctly shows angle based on another calculation type and yes it shows angle!! so just stop writing nonsense here. and again you should read what you are buying, what you should get and what it is based on there are huge screens with huge shrift here for users like you who don't read or can't see properly


Walter Birklbauer  
Davit Beridze #:

Again. both indicators show angles correctly! The first one hemisphere just need to be used on one size chart without playing with zoom. Second one also correctly shows angle based on another calculation type and yes it shows angle!! so just stop writing nonsense here. and again you should read what you are buying, what you should get and what it is based on there are huge screens with huge shrift here for users like you who don't read or can't see properly


The author’s description suggests that the dashboard and the bonus indicator are closely related to the separately sold standalone indicator “MA Speedometer.” This creates the expectation that the dashboard includes a fully functional single indicator. But the bonus indicator differs significantly and does not fulfill what the description implies.

In response to critical questions, the author often replies with vague remarks like:
“Just look at the picture” or “Read the description.”
→ But screenshots are no substitute for proper documentation.
→ A description that hides key limitations remains inadequate.
This seems like a tactic to avoid responsibility.

Bazaar rhetoric instead of professional communication
Rather than addressing criticism in a clear and structured way, the author uses a rhetorical style reminiscent of bazaar talk.
He downplays, contradicts himself, twists facts – and subtly portrays the buyer as uninformed or incapable, instead of directly addressing the issues.
It’s telling that immediately after purchase, he aggressively promotes his other products alongside delivering the bonus indicator.

Critics are not taken seriously but are pushed into a defensive position through subtle or direct insinuations – such as being “lazy” or “illogical.”

Conclusion on communication style
The author communicates non-transparently, avoids direct criticism, distorts facts, and relies on linguistic manipulation to preserve the illusion of coherence.
Instead of owning limitations, valid objections are deflected through rhetorical fog.

I won’t waste any more time on sellers like this.

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