Wishes for holders of the Forum "Let's create a serious forum for serious people" - page 3

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There's an axiom on my forum that I can't remember where...

Никогда не начинайте изучение чего либо
с литературы из серии "для чайников" ...
Ибо эти книги пишут такие же !!!


Introducing sections is a good idea and I support it, especially "Chineg"

(this could now be made an appendix topic already!!!)

Where one could ask questions or raise a topic at any time

where I could ask questions at any time or bring up any topic without fear of being shot in the back:

- "You can write here all sorts of things, you can read the help...

(with an obligatory link, although the answer could take less time and fewer notes).

In the expectation that if there is a desire they will answer, and if there is no, then there is no trial...


We read the reference... and we know the references... but alas, there's no such thing as a no-no.

This is one. Secondly, this is still a forum and not a search engine.

(Which by the way does not work as well as we would like it to... :( )


Help you say... literally yesterday's example.

I need to make it so that the 7th, 16th and 17th of April is displayed on a graph.

1. Find out how to create the label and set properties

(about that later... rrrr...)

5. Compare date and date (just the number of the month)

so that's it:

if (ТЕКДАТА == 7 ) Create();

Yo! no problem, read the help:

int TimeDay( datetime date)
Returns the day of the month (1 - 31) for the specified date.
Parameters:
date - Datetime as number of seconds elapsed since 00:00 1 January 1970.
Example:
 int day=TimeDay(D'2003.12.31'); // day 31

aha... Now we just have to figure out how and what to put in the brackets correctly...

So we read about datetime date

Well, how can we compare them?

We'll have to make the current date look like D'2003.12.31'.


That's what we did by gut feeling 

if (TimeDay(TimeCurrent()) == 7 ) Create();

Try to figure it out from the first kick...

And this is just a part of the issues from a simple task to output the text depending on the day of the month.

The more so, working with time/date has always been a difficult task, it's no easier in EXCEL, for example...


In general, I'm FOR the Chineg corner of the forum !!!

 

It's all great and right, and has been suggested more than once, and sooner or later we will have to do so...


But it only occurred to me, who will enter the section for "dummies", except the "dummies" themselves, and answer their, "dummies'" questions? So there hangs a ridiculous topic like "How to press F1", someone will answer it... As one of my bosses says, "What should I do my job for you now?!?!!")

 

Thank you for discussing the forum. We are constantly working to improve the entire MQL4.community resource and we are interested in any thoughts on its development. Of course, we are all discussing and using our experience. I will try to describe my position.

Based on my years of experience, I can assert that dividing the forum into sections is a one-way street idea. This is the very first thought (partitioning) that comes to the mind of almost anyone. Like many one-ways, this idea doesn't work.


Forum sections are an inevitability with a wide audience of visitors for resources without clear specialisation. For example, many brokers use standard forum engines and copy each other's section names almost verbatim. But from the very beginning we have limited the discussion area to trading automation with the full understanding that we will lose some visitors who would like to discuss other topics as well. Besides, it was very important for us to introduce a complete ban on discussion of brokers (and any financial companies) - this prevents the forum from slipping into a place for plunging negativity.

Realizing that dividing into subsections does not solve the problems, we have concentrated our efforts on other tasks:

  • entering similar topics makes it easy to walk around related topics (using an advanced morphological search engine to create the semantic core of each post and compare it to tens of thousands of other posts in real time)
  • Powerful site-wide search engine MQL4.community, using Russian and English morphology. Around 1,000 unique visitors use the site's search engine per day.
  • automatic linking of important phrases in comments - automatic linking for articles, documentation and tutorials works
  • maximal simplification of the site for one purpose - getting the necessary information. the site is very easy and fast
  • integration of the entire codebase into MetaEditor with a quick search function - this allows you to find and download the necessary files very quickly

To evaluate the performance of the site we are constantly monitoring its statistics. Currently www.mql4.com (without the Championship - it is counted separately) is visited by 10-11 thousand unique visitors every working day. All in all, about 13 000 accounts are registered, of which about 2 400 are active (logged in under their usernames) during a month.

Statistics are also collected by the site engine itself:


Yes, the number of participants is growing, but that doesn't mean we need to exacerbate the process by diluting the main theme. On the contrary, we should be more conscious of controlling the main theme of the site. We will most likely choose public moderators to maintain order.

 
Renat:

Yes, the number of participants is growing, but that does not mean that we need to exacerbate the process by diluting the main theme. On the contrary, we should be more conscious of controlling the main theme of the site.

In fact, sometimes there are very interesting topics that are not directly related to mql4 and auto-trading. You should not remove them, the forum is interesting because of them.

The main irritating thing is repetitive questions, grapplers ("look at this report!") and requests for something to write (there's a torrent of them).

I agree with the opinion about the FAQ (I once suggested it myself), I support the idea of a marketplace and the "labor exchange", I repeat the wish about moderators.

 

The site, the site.

Renat, can we know your position on the site?

 

There are dreamers and there are realistic practitioners. Dreamers think that a FAQ solves problems. And the practitioners know that every section of the MQL4.community is a structured mass of information, containing huge amounts of material and replacing any FAQ.


The FAQ is a trivial one-liner on top of the existing sections of the site. The task of managing a large amount of information is not solved by adding more volume through the creation of questionnaires. But it is solved through powerful mechanisms of search and creation of close links.


Understanding this, we have devoted a great deal of effort to the morphological search engine and similar topics, which enable us to navigate and link content. Especially in view of the ever-increasing volume.


The main problem is the psychology of people who do not want to spend effort in searching for information or even reading specially prepared and structured articles. The problem is not a lack of information but an unwillingness to exert effort. Generally speaking, this reluctance cannot be overcome from the outside.

 
SK. писал (а):
Renat, can we know your position on the platform?
If we are talking about anexpert buying and selling platform, we will not do it.
 
Renat:

There are dreamers and there are realistic practitioners. Dreamers think that a FAQ solves problems. And the practitioners know that every section of the MQL4.community is a structured body of information, containing huge volumes of material and replacing any FAQ.

I seldom see "practitioners" answering questions of newbies (I understand that this is not your personal responsibility, but I don't understand whose it is).
Yes, psychology is hard to change and there will still be questions. But the situation has to be solved somehow, doesn't it?


It's no longer a novelty to have 30 updated topics a day (the entire 1st page is "blue"), and the rate keeps growing. Soon there will be no time and desire for trivial answers and humorous flooding at all.

Here is a specific task for "practitioners" - to make the flow of repetitive questions less.
I have suggested my variant: FAQ + 2-3 active moderators.

 
komposter:

I suggested my own option: FAQ + 2-3 active moderators.

Yes, the option of active public moderators is realistic. But the volume of publications will still grow.

 
The option of moderators is only an option...

Alas, I guess I can't do without a slight modification of the engine.

Why?


Because the moderator option is good, but only until someone becomes a moderator.

As in an army story: "Bad sergeant can not be a great soldier (efr)" ;)))

Having a kiki contributes to the psychology of perception, and therefore for example refused moderators altogether.

But this is while the forum is seldom visited... And then what?

Here on this case there is a section "Trash" without autocleaning, we throw there and then we'll understand.

And it is not lost that written and does not interfere in the general list...

As an option, you can introduce a special theme "general" where to stick the continuation of

Para-post topics that someone seems uninteresting or even silly.


Questions from beginners will always be there!!!

And that's not a loud statement, that's life and some observation experience on the forums.


You know, it's hard to check now, but one of the common questions for example:

- how to put FIBU on a chart

Yes, yes !!! and that's while there is both F1 and TA here and on the MK website.


Maybe do some more digging here too and don't spare the electronic paper... ;)))

And just to describe it as it is:

- on the panel we press the FIBO button and on the chart cast at the point of the assumed start

and without releasing the mouse button pull...

And as a finishing touch, a clear description of why and how the 0 level is here and the 100 level there,

adding a description of the purpose of 168 and why it's there and not for example -168

etc... MQL as well...


It will take less than this post...

but the benefits will probably increase.


I understand that now probably all in anticipation of 5 and spend

of a story that's going to be a thing of the past 4... But it's still worth the paper.

Then, and "dummies corners" and sections of "interest" will be particularly unnecessary ...


Although, for the pros, you can create your own, "cleaner" and without access to view others.

Where they will communicate in a quiet, peaceful environment without the question dummies...

But will it benefit the whole forum? I don't think so.

Apparently it will be wiser to apply the rule: no desire not to respond...


Search is certainly a good thing... but even with that axiom, a man who's "fed up" with advice...

I understand perfectly:

Когда человек хочет что-то изучить он идет и читает книги. но когда нужно что то сделать, он идет и спрашивает у специалистов как сделать. я предполагаю что форумы существует чтоб отвечать на вопросы или хотя бы помогать найти ответы на них. а здесь можно найти совет только "ситай книги" или "юзай поиск", а на* ваще ваш форум нужен?! к сожалению такого ***, как ваш форум, в инете развелось слишком много.


It's a quote from a single OS profile forum.

Where there's even a section "OS for beginners" and there's also a topic hanging proudly in the appendices:

"Read the faqs and search in general..." :)))


There's another problem, pro-slang, which even the search doesn't understand.

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