What does a freelancing client pay for for an EA in exp format or for open source code? - page 24
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Freelance services may be needed when you need to write a special graphic library (even at least on the basis of the articles here, because not everyone wants to and can master the material), translation of existing open source libraries in MQL, etc, that is, something that does not bring any special ideas, but still requires the routine work of programmers. Even some of the older developers use the services of freelancers to save their time.
Therefore, the conclusion: if you want to write a profitable robot, learn the language (it is unrealistic to find all your ideas in Job). If you want to make money on traders without risk and know the language - work as a freelancer, and if conscience allows - steal ideas from customers and never give the source code.
Why do you warn the customer about his leaky idea? Why do you condone the future financial loss of the customer? Don't you feel sorry for him?
The customer sometimes does not need the coder's analysis, he needs what he asked for.
My opinion may remain behind the scenes - I was told so by the customer - but in a soft way (as if reading his mind - he said - I do not care what you think).
The customer does not need the coder's analysis, he needs what he asked for.
My opinion may be left out - I was told so by the customer - but in a soft way (as if reading his mind - he said - I don't care what you think).
You can warn a coder about a plummer of an idea only by checking and testing the idea itself. This is not the coder's responsibility at all and is a separate task. Perhaps, in the future, there will even be such separate services - testing and verification. Here we are talking in general about a different thing - which code format is a product and which is not.
The product is for the market and the job is for the customer.
What is the customer asking for? To write or to sell?
Towrite the code or create the product?
So give me the code, for fuck's sake!
It is only by testing and testing the idea itself that you can warn about a leaky idea. This is not the coder's responsibility at all and is a separate task. Perhaps, in the future there will even be such separate services - testing and verification. Here we are talking in general about a different thing - what code format is a product and what is not.
Because only an experienced trader can have a non-flush idea, and he or she has experience and earns from the market. But these traders already have their own coding team, because a robot is not only an Expert Advisor itself, but also the infrastructure. But what you order here is a 100% sinking. that's why only newbies and true believers can steal these pseudo-ideas.
Trading is a job, not a grail.
and you warn customers about his plum idea?
Here's one dialogue with a potential customer on Skype.
[13.06.2016 10:48:07] Alexei: Is this a request or a favor?
[13.06.2016 13:02:48] Roman Krokhin: ows write for a fee. and correct as you write
[13.06.2016 13:06:49] Roman Krohin: you tell me the price
[13.06.2016 13:06:52] Roman Krohin: That's it.
[13.06.2016 13:07:15] Alexei: I don't know. What do you think?
[13.06.2016 13:08:18] Roman Krohin: Let me throw you an index first
[13.06.2016 13:09:07] Alexei: For the fix? Are you doubting my abilities? Come on.
[13.06.2016 13:09:57] Roman Krohin: It's okay there.
[13.06.2016 13:10:06] Roman Krohin: But not with the property strict.
[13.06.2016 13:10:19] Roman Krohin: you need to write an owl on it
[13.06.2016 13:10:25] Roman Krohin: opening at the arrow
[13.06.2016 13:10:29] Roman Krohin: it's for bo
Continued after empty communication
[13.06.2016 13:53:38] Roman Krohin: they do
[13.06.2016 13:54:56] Alexey: I'll send you a limited time trial tomorrow, then we'll discuss the rest.
[13.06.2016 13:57:40 | edited 13:57:59] Alexei: Please make a demo and give me your account number and password. I have no desire to register with them and they won't let me open a demo that way.
[13.06.2016 13:58:39] Roman Krohin: ok
[13.06.2016 15:20:29] Roman Krohin: can we do without the demo?
[13.06.2016 15:20:36] Roman Krohin: let's call
[13.06.2016 16:20:59] Alexei: What expiry are you going to put?
[13.06.2016 16:22:04] Roman Krohin: 1 candle
[13.06.2016 16:23:34] Alexei: It's a stretchable concept, if the minutes it's critical, for M5 bad, for M15 bad, and for H1 and H4 it won't be noticeable.
[13.06.2016 16:24:17] Roman Krohin: )))) what are you saying) what do you mean? i asked about pam gann. is it late with the signal?
[13.06.2016 16:24:21] Roman Krohin: or from time to time puts?
[13.06.2016 16:25:29] Alexei: And I mean the Cronex_T_DeMarker indicator advisor
[13.06.2016 16:25:43] Roman Krohin: While cancelling the advisor
[13.06.2016 16:25:54] Alexei: Well, you've got it...
[13.06.2016 16:26:09] Roman Krohin: so he's late. what the hell do I need him for
[13.06.2016 16:26:10] Roman Krohin: 7.
[13.06.2016 16:30:50] Roman Krohin: is pam gun late? if not then you can write owl on it .
[13.06.2016 16:38:19] Roman Krohin: are you here?
[13.06.2016 16:38:28] Roman Krohin: Doesn't look like it to me
Well and the main thing (almost the main thing).
[13.06.2016 17:48:35] Roman Krohin: ***
[06/13/2016 17:49:33] Roman Krohin: No way.
[13.06.2016 17:49:58] Alexei: Call me and I'll show you.
[13.06.2016 17:51:08] *** Roman Krohin calling ***
[06/13/2016 18:01:15] *** Call completed. Duration: 10:07 ***
[06/13/2016 18:04:19] Roman Krohin: by the way there is an owl making 3 million a month with 100 quid. want to know?
[13.06.2016 18:07:17] Roman Krohin: Listen. Can you make it so that Krones would put only signals without a zadrzhka
[13.06.2016 18:07:19] Roman Krohin: ????
[13.06.2016 18:07:23] Roman Krohin: I think that's the solution
[13.06.2016 18:22:14] Roman Krohin: or should it be rewritten from 0?
[13.06.2016 19:00:38] Roman Krohin: I don't understand. I was told that indyk does not draw.
[13.06.2016 19:01:08] Alexei: I'm not saying it draws.
[13.06.2016 19:01:40] Roman Krohin: Are you saying that lag is not real to remove?)
[13.06.2016 19:04:01] Alexei: Well, if the crossover happens 20 seconds after the bar opens, how can you predict that this crossover will surely come? It can roll back, after all...
[13.06.2016 19:05:09] Alexei: And if you check for an arrow on the first bar, it will delay the signal even more.
[13.06.2016 19:07:23] Roman Krokhin: So relay on the next candle
[13.06.2016 19:09:20] Alexey: Deliberately delay the signal even more? Why?
[13.06.2016 19:11:07] Roman Krohin: So it must be necessary to make the arrow appear only at the very opening if at that moment there was contact
[13.06.2016 19:14:20] Roman Krohin: No contact immediately ignore signal
[13.06.2016 19:15:19] Alexei: There is no need to rewrite the indicator for this. Then just prescribe it in the advisor.
[13.06.2016 19:15:48] Roman Krohin: So you can do that
[13.06.2016 19:16:17] Roman Krohin: And in an indicator write this if
[13.06.2016 19:19:37] Alexei: I was just explaining that there is no way to calculate intermediate values in the indicator. And if you write it in such a way that if there is no crossover at bar opening, then no arrow is drawn, then you will get a drawing indicator. While it works, there is no signal, when you switch the TF the signal will be where it was not.
[13.06.2016 19:20:21] Alexei: Or the signal will move 1 bar to the left.
And now specifically the main thing.
[14.06.2016 13:52:08] Alexei: Let's finish the issues with this EA first.
[14.06.2016 13:54:29] Roman Krohin: and what is your price
[14.06.2016 14:10:04] Roman Krohin: karoche I have 1 indyuk. decompiled
[14.06.2016 14:10:13] Roman Krohin: I need to fix it
[14.06.2016 14:10:56] Roman Krohin: 83 lines
[14.06.2016 14:11:50] Roman Krohin: I like him very much.
[14.06.2016 14:12:26] Roman Krohin: so maybe I won't buy owls if it's unprofitable.
[14.06.2016 14:19:09] Roman Krohin: Oh wait.
[14.06.2016 14:19:19] Roman Krohin: I told you I might not buy
[14.06.2016 14:19:41] Alexei: then why did you ask to write?
[14.06.2016 14:20:09] Alexey: Did you take advantage of me not taking an advance payment?
[14.06.2016 14:21:26] Alexei: I don't take not so that I can think, check the profitability of the system, but so that I can understand that everything works as ordered.
[14.06.2016 14:24:07] Roman Krohin: It works as ordered. but since the signals are late, I have doubts about the 50 quid I will work out) but it is not your concern.
[14.06.2016 14:24:20] Roman Krohin: I will write when I check.
[14.06.2016 14:24:31] Roman Krohin: In addition to the advisor there is another job for which I will definitely pay
That's the kind of customer you get. And you propose to warn them about losing money...I don't warn them about losses, I say they are not responsible for their ability to earn, they are not my responsibility. And I always work with new ones on a prepayment basis.
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That's how customers are. And you're suggesting that we should warn them about loss...Here is one dialogue with a potential customer over Skype.
Continued after an empty conversation
And the main thing (almost the main thing)
And now the main thing in particular.
These are the kinds of customers. And you propose to warn them about losses...You must get paid a monthly wage by Forex for this kind of software.
They could not at least make it profitable in the tester, could they?
There are all kinds of customers and performers... The important thing is to stay human.
So, in order to stay human, do you have to warn about the unfulfillability of your dreams or do you just want to make money?
After all, my example was an answer to your question about warnings...