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han cao
统计数据，改进系统，优化参数
Statistics, improve system, optimize the parameters
Statistics, improve system, optimize the parameters
CHRISTOPHER SIMON BEAUMONT
2013.12.18
Seems like the EA works very well outside of news. Keep going Han, you'll make it back :)
han cao
有个朋友对我说，上帝看了我的照片后嫉妒我，所以不让我赚钱。所以我把照片删除了。
A friend said to me, god jealous of me after seeing my photos, so don't let me make money.So I deleted the photos
A friend said to me, god jealous of me after seeing my photos, so don't let me make money.So I deleted the photos
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han cao
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry, I turned off all orders manually.May not be a good decision, but in order to keep the principal, I can only choose to do so.
Caused losses to you, I feel very guilty, say, ten thousand I'm sorry to you all.
For the performance of the continuous observation of EA, I will run the EA with very low risk.
If you have good Suggestions, please give me the message, I will thank you very much.
If feel angry to me, please give me the message, so perhaps you will feel better.
Ah, let you down, I'm so sorry.
Thank you very much tradern, he gave me good advice and encouragement.The EA will be further improved
Caused losses to you, I feel very guilty, say, ten thousand I'm sorry to you all.
For the performance of the continuous observation of EA, I will run the EA with very low risk.
If you have good Suggestions, please give me the message, I will thank you very much.
If feel angry to me, please give me the message, so perhaps you will feel better.
Ah, let you down, I'm so sorry.
Thank you very much tradern, he gave me good advice and encouragement.The EA will be further improved
b189
2013.12.13
I also lost my money , but do not blame you, Cao. I know you want the best. What they say to us , that just does not make a mistake, he does not do anything. We are not paid for the signal either, so do not your shoulder responsibility. I wanted to follow your signal, I tied it to my account, I am ultimately responsible for it. Those who playing with this business , he knows what risk. If you do not agree, put the money in the bank or under the pillow . For me, the forex is a kind of gambling. ( But only a game.) If you run out of money for it , I'll stop and move on. Others is played out in casino, or drinking out, or spend even worse things. It would be puerile thinking pass the responsibility on you.
(Sadly, more and more I see that, the only gain in the long term in the Forex the brokers and the "Big Fish .")
I see it, your robot is very good, but not such extreme cases. Could not turn down the trades, and the EA before this similar news? ( I lost my all money on similar days, I even traded oneself, or followed other signals.) You're better know your EA, when you suspect that, it will be a dangerous day, before announcing it and simply shut down. With this strategy (grid strategy) , only if the last "storm", you can continue on, but only the average days. (This is at least increase the survival and the chances of long-term profitability.) It is very difficult to write an EA that works well in all situations.
Sorry my english, I hope, you understand this, but I there must write to you.
Unfortunately, people only celebrate the winner, the good intentions will forget, in turn by the good intentions begins in the right things. (And therefore not to be ashamed of your photo...)
Keep your head up, and keep working Cao...:-)
(Sadly, more and more I see that, the only gain in the long term in the Forex the brokers and the "Big Fish .")
I see it, your robot is very good, but not such extreme cases. Could not turn down the trades, and the EA before this similar news? ( I lost my all money on similar days, I even traded oneself, or followed other signals.) You're better know your EA, when you suspect that, it will be a dangerous day, before announcing it and simply shut down. With this strategy (grid strategy) , only if the last "storm", you can continue on, but only the average days. (This is at least increase the survival and the chances of long-term profitability.) It is very difficult to write an EA that works well in all situations.
Sorry my english, I hope, you understand this, but I there must write to you.
Unfortunately, people only celebrate the winner, the good intentions will forget, in turn by the good intentions begins in the right things. (And therefore not to be ashamed of your photo...)
Keep your head up, and keep working Cao...:-)
han cao
各位，对不起了，我手动关掉了全部订单。也许并不是一个好的决定，但为了保住本金，我只能选择这样做。
给各位造成了亏损，我感到非常内疚，向各位说一万个对不起。
为了连续观察EA的表现，我将采用极低风险方式运行EA。
如果你有好的建议，请给我消息，我会非常感谢你。
如果对我感到愤怒，请给我消息，这样也许你会好受些。
哎，让你们失望了，真是对不起。
非常感谢tradern，他给了我很好的建议和鼓励。接下来EA将被进一步改进
给各位造成了亏损，我感到非常内疚，向各位说一万个对不起。
为了连续观察EA的表现，我将采用极低风险方式运行EA。
如果你有好的建议，请给我消息，我会非常感谢你。
如果对我感到愤怒，请给我消息，这样也许你会好受些。
哎，让你们失望了，真是对不起。
非常感谢tradern，他给了我很好的建议和鼓励。接下来EA将被进一步改进
danisben
2013.12.14
这次我亏损了40%的本金。但没有怪你。市场是万变的，跟单也是自愿行为，我觉得无需自责。任何EA都有它的弱点和相对应的风险，经历风浪才能积累应付的经验，在这点上我相信，你的EA会逐步变得更好。支持你。
han cao
HI,b189 ,I saw your picture, I'm sorry, I haven't met this kind of situation, and I also don't know how to solve now.
First of all, you should immediately stop using real account subscription signal, until the problem is resolved.
Second, through various channels to more people for help, including MT4 software developers.
I will consult my friend, see where the problem really out, hope to faster to solve this problem.
Don't worry, the problem will be solved
First of all, you should immediately stop using real account subscription signal, until the problem is resolved.
Second, through various channels to more people for help, including MT4 software developers.
I will consult my friend, see where the problem really out, hope to faster to solve this problem.
Don't worry, the problem will be solved
b189
2013.12.10
Thank you very much, Cao!
(I met this error on other signals also... Only for me have this problem?)
(I met this error on other signals also... Only for me have this problem?)
Yang May Leong
2013.12.11
Han, maybe u can let know whats wrong with this subscriber acct? I have made a lot of suggestions to metaquotes since last year, some of which are implemented into v500. Perhaps I can help to resolve the issue
han cao
2013.12.11
HI，ymleong,If you know how to solve the problems for B189, that's nice.I asked my friends, they are not encountered such a problem, so far, I don't know how to solve.I hope you can give the solution to share to all of us, the most sincere gratitude for you.
han cao
Managing Funds or How to Select a Deal Volume?
The question of how exactly the Subscriber's deposit will participate in trading via Signals service is one of the most critical ones. When solving this issue, we followed the already mentioned principle - providing maximum protection for each participant. As a result, we can offer a secure solution for Subscribers.
When enabling signals in the terminal and subscribing to one of them, Subscribers should select what part of the deposit is to be used when following the signals. There was an alternative solution of setting the ratio between Subscriber's and Provider's position volumes. But such a system could not guarantee the security of the Subscriber's deposit. For example, suppose that Provider's deposit is 30 000$, while Subscriber's one is 10 000$ and the ratio of 1:1 has been selected. In that case, the Signals Provider may just wait out temporary drawdown having a large volume order, while the Subscriber may lose all the funds with all his or her positions closed by Stop Out. The situation may get even worse if the Provider's balance suddenly changes (top up or withdraw), while previously specified volumes ratio remains intact.
To avoid such cases, we have decided to implement the system of percentage-based allocation of the part of a deposit, which is to be used in trading via the Signals service. This system is quite complicated as it considers deposit currencies, their conversion and leverages.
Let's consider a specific example of using the volumes management system:
Provider: balance 15 000 USD, leverage 1:100
Subscriber1: balance 40 000 EUR, leverage 1:200, deposit load percentage 50%
Subscriber2: balance 5 000 EUR, leverage 1:50, deposit load percentage 35%
EURUSD exchange rate = 1.2700
Calculation of Provider's and Subscriber's position volumes ratio:
Balances ratio considering specified part of the deposit in percentage terms:
Subscriber1: (40 000 * 0,5) / 15 000 = 1,3333 (133.33%)
Subscriber2: (5 000 * 0,35) / 15 000 = 0,1166 (11.66%)
After considering the leverages:
Subscriber1: the leverage of Subscriber1 (1:200) is greater than Provider's one (1:100), thus correction on leverages is not performed
Subscriber2: 0,1166 * (50 / 100) = 0,0583 (5.83%)
After considering currency rates of the deposits at the moment of calculation:
Subscriber1: 1,3333 * 1,2700 = 1,6933 (169.33%)
Subscriber2: 0,0583 * 1,2700 = 0,0741 (7.41%)
Total percentage value after the rounding (performed using a multistep algorithm):
Subscriber1: 160% or 1.6 ratio
Subscriber2: 7% or 0.07 ratio
Thus under the given conditions, Provider's deal with volume of 1 lot will be copied:
- to Subscriber1 account in amount of 160% - volume of 1.6 lots
- to Subscriber2 account in amount of 160% - volume of 0.07 lots
Be careful not to confuse the percentage value of the used part of the deposit and the actual ratio of position volumes. The trading terminal allows setting the part of the deposit in percentage value. This value is used to calculate the ratio of position volumes. This data is always fixed in the log and is shown in the following way:
Subscriber1:
2012.11.12 13:33:23 Signal '1277190': percentage for volume conversion selected according to the ratio of balances and leverages, new value 160%
2012.11.12 13:27:55 Signal '1277190': signal provider has balance 15 000.00 USD, leverage 1:100; subscriber has balance 40 000.00 EUR, leverage 1:200
2012.11.12 13:27:54 Signal '1277190': money management: use 50% of deposit, equity limit: 0.00 EUR, deviation/slippage: 1.0 spreads
Subscriber2:
2012.11.12 13:33:23 Signal '1277191': percentage for volume conversion selected according to the ratio of balances and leverages, new value 7%
2012.11.12 13:27:55 Signal '1277191': signal provider has balance 15 000.00 USD, leverage 1:50; subscriber has balance 5 000.00 EUR, leverage 1:50
2012.11.12 13:27:54 Signal '1277191': money management: use 35% of deposit, equity limit: 0.00 EUR, deviation/slippage: 1.0 spreads
The question of how exactly the Subscriber's deposit will participate in trading via Signals service is one of the most critical ones. When solving this issue, we followed the already mentioned principle - providing maximum protection for each participant. As a result, we can offer a secure solution for Subscribers.
When enabling signals in the terminal and subscribing to one of them, Subscribers should select what part of the deposit is to be used when following the signals. There was an alternative solution of setting the ratio between Subscriber's and Provider's position volumes. But such a system could not guarantee the security of the Subscriber's deposit. For example, suppose that Provider's deposit is 30 000$, while Subscriber's one is 10 000$ and the ratio of 1:1 has been selected. In that case, the Signals Provider may just wait out temporary drawdown having a large volume order, while the Subscriber may lose all the funds with all his or her positions closed by Stop Out. The situation may get even worse if the Provider's balance suddenly changes (top up or withdraw), while previously specified volumes ratio remains intact.
To avoid such cases, we have decided to implement the system of percentage-based allocation of the part of a deposit, which is to be used in trading via the Signals service. This system is quite complicated as it considers deposit currencies, their conversion and leverages.
Let's consider a specific example of using the volumes management system:
Provider: balance 15 000 USD, leverage 1:100
Subscriber1: balance 40 000 EUR, leverage 1:200, deposit load percentage 50%
Subscriber2: balance 5 000 EUR, leverage 1:50, deposit load percentage 35%
EURUSD exchange rate = 1.2700
Calculation of Provider's and Subscriber's position volumes ratio:
Balances ratio considering specified part of the deposit in percentage terms:
Subscriber1: (40 000 * 0,5) / 15 000 = 1,3333 (133.33%)
Subscriber2: (5 000 * 0,35) / 15 000 = 0,1166 (11.66%)
After considering the leverages:
Subscriber1: the leverage of Subscriber1 (1:200) is greater than Provider's one (1:100), thus correction on leverages is not performed
Subscriber2: 0,1166 * (50 / 100) = 0,0583 (5.83%)
After considering currency rates of the deposits at the moment of calculation:
Subscriber1: 1,3333 * 1,2700 = 1,6933 (169.33%)
Subscriber2: 0,0583 * 1,2700 = 0,0741 (7.41%)
Total percentage value after the rounding (performed using a multistep algorithm):
Subscriber1: 160% or 1.6 ratio
Subscriber2: 7% or 0.07 ratio
Thus under the given conditions, Provider's deal with volume of 1 lot will be copied:
- to Subscriber1 account in amount of 160% - volume of 1.6 lots
- to Subscriber2 account in amount of 160% - volume of 0.07 lots
Be careful not to confuse the percentage value of the used part of the deposit and the actual ratio of position volumes. The trading terminal allows setting the part of the deposit in percentage value. This value is used to calculate the ratio of position volumes. This data is always fixed in the log and is shown in the following way:
Subscriber1:
2012.11.12 13:33:23 Signal '1277190': percentage for volume conversion selected according to the ratio of balances and leverages, new value 160%
2012.11.12 13:27:55 Signal '1277190': signal provider has balance 15 000.00 USD, leverage 1:100; subscriber has balance 40 000.00 EUR, leverage 1:200
2012.11.12 13:27:54 Signal '1277190': money management: use 50% of deposit, equity limit: 0.00 EUR, deviation/slippage: 1.0 spreads
Subscriber2:
2012.11.12 13:33:23 Signal '1277191': percentage for volume conversion selected according to the ratio of balances and leverages, new value 7%
2012.11.12 13:27:55 Signal '1277191': signal provider has balance 15 000.00 USD, leverage 1:50; subscriber has balance 5 000.00 EUR, leverage 1:50
2012.11.12 13:27:54 Signal '1277191': money management: use 35% of deposit, equity limit: 0.00 EUR, deviation/slippage: 1.0 spreads
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han cao
HI，B189 and everybody，About to subscribe to signal volume, please check the following address in detail：
english：https://www.mql5.com/en/articles/618
chinese：https://www.mql5.com/zh/articles/618
english：https://www.mql5.com/en/articles/618
chinese：https://www.mql5.com/zh/articles/618
han cao
到12日，真实账户就一个月了，接下来会统计数据，进一步优化参数，谢谢你们的关注。
To 12, it's really a trading account for a month, the next thing to statistics, the further optimization of parameters, thank you for your attention.
To 12, it's really a trading account for a month, the next thing to statistics, the further optimization of parameters, thank you for your attention.
b189
2013.12.09
Hi Han Cao!
I think, now your signals are the best of in the MQL5. Consistently profitable. Congratulation for this performance, and thank you for your gorgeous work...
I tried the "Stable profit for the first" , and "Ic313295" also. I have a big problems (both accounts at) with the lot sizing, I do not know where he might be a bug. On demo account everything is correct, but the real account working always double in size lots, and (I think, therefore) then sometimes by itself close for tradings (of course in loss), and re-launch by the business smaller lots. After again open by double lots, and so on... (My demo account, and the real also guided in AUD, at the ICMarkets.)
In addition, it can be very dangerous in case of a major drawdown, regularly lose more items about it. (Of course, no trace of your account of these actions.)
Is there any advice for these problems?
(Sorry my english...)
I think, now your signals are the best of in the MQL5. Consistently profitable. Congratulation for this performance, and thank you for your gorgeous work...
I tried the "Stable profit for the first" , and "Ic313295" also. I have a big problems (both accounts at) with the lot sizing, I do not know where he might be a bug. On demo account everything is correct, but the real account working always double in size lots, and (I think, therefore) then sometimes by itself close for tradings (of course in loss), and re-launch by the business smaller lots. After again open by double lots, and so on... (My demo account, and the real also guided in AUD, at the ICMarkets.)
In addition, it can be very dangerous in case of a major drawdown, regularly lose more items about it. (Of course, no trace of your account of these actions.)
Is there any advice for these problems?
(Sorry my english...)
ad66091
2013.12.10
Hi B189, How much is your capital? You can set the % of risk in the signals tab, it will only double the lot size if your Capital is twice the capital of Hans. As what i noticed from his EA, it only do the 2nd trade after 20 to 22 pips and may only open 3 trades because of his theory that AUDNZD won't pass more than 600 points (60 pips) historically. For now i don't see that a major drawdown can happen because of this setting.
Hans, Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Hans, Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Tnx!