A career in stock trading - page 10

 
Svinozavr писал(а) >>
>>Yes. Work at the stock exchange first, before you start bullshitting. And do not suddenly dare to lie that you have worked - only a person who did not trade there for a statistically significant time could say so.

This was taken out of context, the point was that on the stock exchange you can make money using elementary economic growth, For forex you have to sweat it out to save yourself from inflation.

Where on forex is the equivalent of net assets, where on forex can you put a stop to make sure it doesn't hit?

Changing an equity by a percentage is not the same as changing a currency pair's lot by the same percentage with a leverage of 1 to 100. The risk is completely different.

In the first case, you have a completely stop-loss-safe trade, while in the second, you can stop at a risk-free level only with a leverage of 1 to 1. Currencies do not have the volatility needed to trade on them without leverage and gain the same percentage.

Currency pairs do not have the same component of net worth as stocks, stocks are simply obliged to grow in the long run.

Buy and hold is quite a real strategy, especially for retirement savings.

Diversify by Markowitz and you can forget about stocks.

On income from exchanges traders have every chance to live, but forex is another matter entirely.

 
vasya_vasya писал(а) >>

... in equities, stocks are simply bound to rise in the long term.

Buy and hold is a very realistic strategy, especially for pension savings.

One example of growth over 2 years:

 
vasya_vasya >> :

This was taken out of context, the point was that on the stock exchange you can make money using elementary economic growth, For forex you have to sweat to save yourself from inflation.

Where on forex is the equivalent of net assets, where on forex can you put a stop to make sure it doesn't hit?

Changing an equity by a percentage is not the same as changing a currency pair's lot by the same percentage with a leverage of 1 to 100. The risk is completely different.

In the first case, you have a completely stop-loss-safe trade, while in the second, you can stop at a risk-free level only with a leverage of 1 to 1. Currencies do not have the volatility needed to trade on them without leverage and gain the same percentage.

Currency pairs do not have the same component as net assets of stocks, stocks are simply obliged to grow in the long run.

Buy and hold is quite a real strategy, especially for retirement savings.

Diversify by Markowitz and you can forget about stocks.

On income from exchanges traders have every chance to live, but forex is another matter entirely.

Empty. If you took the bankrupt Lemon Brothers into the longs, for example, you would go bankrupt. Or if you bought, say, a GP at R350 in the spring of 2006, you'd still be sitting on your ass. Or, if with shoulders, would have gone bankrupt at MK in the same 2006.

The ultimate chance to go bankrupt, disappear and grow to the sky is there for everyone.

Just think about why %% of those who go bankrupt on the stock market and forex are comparable. If it were the way you describe it, it would be earth and space.

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Don't talk about things in which you are poorly versed, it doesn't work here.

 
goldtrader >> :

One example of growth in two years:

Yes, firms can go bust if they can't compete.

The very fact that the firm is listed on the stock exchange does not mean that the status quo will be maintained,

but to their credit, their buoyancy when they go public becomes the interest of a lot more people,

and that's more stability against a non-listed firm.

 
Svinozavr >> :
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Don't talk in an unapologetic tone about things in which you are poorly versed - it doesn't work here.

The man just doesn't know that any stock commodity can fall to zero. But currency can never.

>> Now he knows.

 

The buy and hold strategy is in action:

Apparently the nikey index plays against this strategy.

 
Svinozavr писал(а) >>

Empty. If you took the bankrupt Lemon Brothers into the longs, for example, you would go bankrupt. Or if you bought, say, a GP at R350 in the spring of 2006, you'd still be sitting on your ass. Or, if with shoulders, went bankrupt on the MC in the same 2006.

Why would I buy only what will go bust? Diversification is not the last word in my post.

Svinozavr wrote >>

At least think about why the % of ruined on the stock market and forex is comparable.

Actually, I have a version of it.

I think it is in the psychology of traders. They probably have the same attitude to the market, I think their attitude is not very different from the casino players to gambling.

But at the exchange, you really do not need to have a lot of brains to earn money, you just do not have to become a gambler.

You do not have to be educated, you just need to hear about diversification, and not to give in to tricks of investment companies - to give the money to mutual funds or trusts.

Often people estimate their chances very poorly, which is why a trader believes that his luck is not accidental. It is difficult for a person to imagine what a one in a thousand chance is. They write off a series of successful deals on the graality of their strategy, but they forget that they are not alone at the exchange market and that someone can just get lucky.

If you hear about stable figures of 2% success rate, it is not because of the power of intellect, it is more likely the merit of non-zero probability of such unbelievable events.

 
I would love to watch the trader who bought the nikey index in late 1989 and has held his position ever since, how the market is supposed to grow after all:)))))))))))))))
 
vasya_vasya >> :

Diversification is not the last word in my post.

With Diversification you average profits as a result it can actually become less than inflation.

You'd be better off buying real estate and sleeping in peace.

 
C-4 писал(а) >>

The buy and hold strategy is in action:

Apparently the nikey index is playing against this strategy.

Two years is not a time frame.

Buy and hold works, almost always and even if you bought at the peak before the crisis, you would probably have recovered everything in 15 years.

How many traders do we know who haven't met a margin call in 15 years?

You could buy at the bottom, then you would win immediately, but you would have a very hard time losing.

Reason: