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KimIV писал (а) >>

Yura, what are you getting excited about? I don't think I'm an idiot. I don't think my kindergarten teachers are idiots. And the teachers at the Lyceum. And Father Boris at our church. I don't think a lot of people are idiots either.

And instead of making excuses for Dima, you should just think about why he said it.

And I do not consider myself a clown :-)

Igor, it's ok, it's ok.

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Why did Dima say that... that's probably a good question to ask him...

telepathy

- Dimitri writes on stream - and his prices range from $10-100

- He probably has trouble imagining that he can charge more for the same work.

- he hasn't tried to compare the efficiency in terms of amount of gestures and price of the product

- the price of more than $100 is shocking

I don't know why

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Igor - when you write on stream - the price is significantly lower

I see on your site your work, and they inspire respect as a whole and your communication style

they're inline! and that's ok

i sell indicators i've written for $50, even though i didn't write them for an hour - but they are sold, not written from scratch every time ( this is a flow)

there is profitability and not profitability - there is an assessment of one's labor

write individual systems for $10 - $100 investing hours - days - weeks - I do not see the point - not profitable - meaningless

It is stipulated that the order can not be replicated in the flow ...

One-offs should be more expensive! Like any exclusive.

Of course a man who writes to the flow - and not expensive can be called neither a clown nor an idiot

If Dmitry has a big flow - and he writes for the same money it is his own pain

but to call a person who writes more individually without understanding the motivation a clown or an idiot is also not correct

Circulation - flow - generally more profitable...

( by the way i managed to sell two week developments for $2000 )

hence the prices... both the number of sales and the appropriateness of the transactions suits me fine

my minimum sales were $5 but I don't even know the names of the buyers

if an order of $ 10-100 I get a lot of piss from the customer and he gobbles up every 10 cents

it's not worth the effort ( internet traffic is more expensive )

I just don't get a lot of traffic.

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I don't see my approach as abnormally inadequate.

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perhaps by describing the prices openly... provoked not quite correct reaction Dimitri

it's possible Dmitry ( do not understand the motivation) - which is often the case on the Internet


 
goldtrader писал (а) >>

Perhaps it's the overload of orders before the start of the Champ?

Actually, it's strange, we're discussing him as a bot here.

It's just that everyone has a different approach and outlook and the conditions in which they live.

In my little town, a taxi fare is an order of magnitude less than $20, and you can buy a bucket of milk for $10.

But this is Russia, not Moscow. ;)

Well, that's the motivation! It's simple! (and I can't afford it for $10-$20)

What wonderful area is this in Russia?

Here, a carton of milk starts at 40 rubles,

A taxi from 100$ 4$ 5 minutes - 10 minutes = 4$ 10$ 20$

I can pee for $100 = HOUR! It's cheaper for me to go taxiing then

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There are lots of orders!

Activity has increased

I personally send orders to Andrei KOMPOSTER

Dmitriy will send to him too

 
YuraZ писал (а) >>
and I don't consider myself a clown :-)

Then why did you start making excuses?

And what's wrong with a clown?

I lied in my previous post. I'm often an idiot. A lot more often than I'd like.

 
YuraZ писал (а) >>

taxi from 100$ 4$ 5 minutes -10 minutes = 4$-10$-20$

I can pee for 100$ = HOUR! It's cheaper for me to take a taxi then

No one is judging your approach.

But the comparison with a taxi driver is also incorrect.

A taxi driver works (earns) 5-10 minutes per hour, and stands for the rest of the time.

Yes, and the cost of fuel, service, traffic police, taxes ...

But intellectual labour must be worth more, it is a fact.

Taxi driver training takes months, software engineer + trader training takes years, and not everyone can be trained.

If we consider that nowhere in Russia they do not teach traders (courses for plunderers do not count),

In this case, the high demand for the services of this level is understandable.

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But the price of a pack of moloko at 40 rubles != $10.

Regardless of where you live.

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goldtrader писал (а) >>
But this is Russia, not Moscow. ;)

Moscow is another country.

2002. A business trip to a branch of our company, Kungurskie People's Crafts. I don't know if I deserve it or not, but Moscow is considered the business centre of Russia and many Russian companies try to open their branches and representative offices there, in Moscow. I call Kungur from Moscow and introduce myself: "Hello, it's Igor from Moscow. The Muscovites almost fell out of their chairs and laughed like a lunatic. And I think I caught the context of their laughter exactly, as if I wanted to live in Moscow or at least I liked it there, or I wanted to join Moscow's greatness, because the phrase "This is Igor from Moscow" should sound proud and majestic and should open absolutely all the doors. And it didn't occur to them at the time that they were the ones who were lapping up the greatness of our Kungur company, that they were the ones who were feeding off the sales of our products. I've been to other cities in Russia and there was no such reaction anywhere. In Kungur, no one would think of laughing if a non-Kungurian called and said: "This is so-and-so from Kungur!". I like my town. And I'm proud of it. On all the forums where it is possible to specify the city, I always write "Kungur". Kungur ice cave. Kungur folk crafts. Kungur machinery plant. Kungur shoe factory. So what if some names disappeared into history? There will be others.

 
KimIV писал (а) >>

Then why did you start making excuses?

And what's wrong with a clown?

I lied in my previous post. I'm often an idiot. A lot more often than I'd like.

Well, it's not an excuse, it's more an attempt to explain... ( of course explaining something can be taken as an excuse )

I wrote - communication on the Internet is a peculiarity in which to become misunderstood is a mere trifle

and you can be called an idiot and a clown - in general, you can put any name you want

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Maybe there's no need to explain anything - more often than not, few people can understand

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:-)) there is nothing wrong with a clown, especially if he earns more than the person who laughs at him.

I remember Gogol: Who you laugh at, you laugh at yourself.

Some people laugh at the $2,000 price tag.

>> some people laugh at $10.

again - everything is relative... and most importantly both can be right in different circumstances

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Igor similarly!


 
goldtrader писал (а) >>

But intellectual labour must be worth more - that's a fact.

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that's what I meant...

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Oh, I'm off course.)

 
ForexTools писал (а) >>

Why are we reacting so strongly, people? Remember your first steps into forex :)

So this "young man with glowing eyes" gets into google and what does he find there? Correct: a bunch of systems and trading tactics that guarantee almost a tenfold increase of the initial deposit in a very short period. What does he do next? Correct: he shifts MT, shifts experts, launches the tester and sees that he hasn't been lied to - the deposit is increasing indeed. We all know the price of such increase, but what about him? A smart young man finds a small change in parameters or an algorithm, and the "result" is two times better. And who do you think he will think he is? Correct: a young and yet unrecognized Soros. :)

Anyway... As for me, you should not swear but pity them. Although you can also be jealous ;) - he has a lot of tumultuous emotions ahead of him.......

Hello forum users, I am a first-time first class and my description is similar to that "young man" portrayed by ForexTools

Is it all so hopeless with the tester and you can't trust the test results? or it only applies to "pipsaw" systems?

Would you suggest that if MTS sets large stoplots and takeprofits (>40 pips in EUR/dollar) and the average order lifetime exceeds a day, is it possible to trust the tester results and the results in the testing period may have almost matched the real ones?

I also would like to find out the pitfalls of testing.

Maybe slippages and timeouts are not taken into account, maybe the runtime of commands in the tester is instantaneous, etc.

If so, the tester should be able to check the detector's performance and confirm the results.

i did not find an answer to this question in the forum but maybe i searched badly

Thanks

I have attached the test results for 4.5 months below, what might be alerting in this report?

Symbol EURUSD (Euro vs US Dollar)
Period 5 Minutes (M5) 2008.05.01 00:00 - 2008.09.16 23:55
Model All ticks (most accurate method based on all smallest available timeframes)
Parameters
Bars in history 29147 Modelled ticks 997654 Simulation quality n/a
Chart mismatch errors 307
Initial deposit 5000.00
Net profit 16284.50 Total profit 28867.50 Total loss -12583.00
Profitability 2.29 Expected payoff 69.89
Absolute drawdown 131.00 Maximum drawdown 7979.70 (32.65%) Relative drawdown 32.65% (7979.70)
Total trades 233 Short positions (% win) 102 (41.18%) Long positions (% win) 131 (19.08%)
Profitable trades (% of all) 67 (28.76%) Loss trades (% of all) 166 (71.24%)
Largest profitable trade 1800.10 losing deal -89.10
Average profitable deal 430.86 losing deal -75.80
Maximum number continuous wins (profit) 17 (19217.80) Continuous losses (loss) 80 (-6405.60)
Maximum continuous profits (number of wins) 19217.80 (17) Continuous loss (number of losses) -6405.60 (80)
Average continuous winnings 3 Continuous loss 7

 
blend писал (а) >>

Hello forum dwellers, I am a first time first timer and the description is similar to this "youngster" portrayed by ForexTools

Is everything so hopeless with the tester and you can't trust the test results?

You can trust the results if you know how and what you have tested.

But in the vast majority of cases testing is a fitting.

As in the courses, when the teacher on the beautiful graph shows students:

"this is where you should have bought... here we should have gone down in the trend ... and here to lock in the profit."

The key word here is "was", because the tester uses the history, which is loaded into it and optimized

You are looking for those parameters, which might have helped you make profit in the past. But the probability that this profit

in the future is very unlikely.

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And n/a quality and 307 mismatch errors - that's bullshit.

 
blend писал (а) >>

Hello forum dwellers, I am a first time first timer and the description is similar to this "youngster" portrayed by ForexTools

Is it all so hopeless with the tester and you can't trust the test results? or is it only for "pips" systems?

Would you suggest that if MTS sets large stoplots and takeprofits (>40 pips in EUR/dollar) and the average order lifetime exceeds a day, is it possible to trust the tester results and the results in the testing period may have almost matched the real ones?

I also would like to find out the pitfalls of testing.

Maybe slippages and timeouts are not taken into account, maybe the runtime of commands in the tester is instantaneous, etc.

If so, the tester should be able to check the detector's performance and confirm the results.

i did not find an answer to this question in the forum but maybe i searched badly

Thanks

I have attached the test results for 4.5 months below, what might be alerting in this report?

SymbolEURUSD (Euro vs US Dollar)
Period5 Minutes (M5) 2008.05.01 00:00 - 2008.09.16 23:55
ModelAll ticks (most accurate method based on all smallest available timeframes)
Parameters
Bars in history29147Modelled ticks997654Simulation qualityn/a
Chart mismatch errors307
Initial deposit5000.00
Net profit16284.50Total profit28867.50Total loss-12583.00
Profitability2.29Expected payoff69.89
Absolute drawdown131.00Maximum drawdown7979.70 (32.65%)Relative drawdown32.65% (7979.70)
Total trades233Short positions (% win)102 (41.18%)Long positions (% win)131 (19.08%)
Profitable trades (% of all)67 (28.76%)Loss trades (% of all)166 (71.24%)
Largestprofitable trade1800.10losing deal-89.10
Averageprofitable deal430.86losing deal-75.80
Maximum numbercontinuous wins (profit)17 (19217.80)Continuous losses (loss)80 (-6405.60)
Maximumcontinuous profits (number of wins)19217.80 (17)Continuous loss (number of losses)-6405.60 (80)
Averagecontinuous winnings3Continuous loss7

good result - go for the championship !

provided that you follow the rules

In testing, pay attention to the following points, for example

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set the DEMK for a few days! ( I recommend to send it to the tournament)

after the testing period on the demo is over, let's assume a week or more

the deal run the same period on the tester

there will be variation! but it should be minimal! i.e. entries should coincide exactly in time!

this is the first indication of quality

if it was a BAD FAULTY Wrong - Fit - you will find the difference quickly

if the pips in the area of SPRED or even slightly above - then most likely you will lose (except for systems like WINWIN2007)

but for winwin few brokers will pay you the profit - and will tolerate you in their place - for the sake of other customers who are losing

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Run the system with a fixed lot without MM

Make sure there are no chart mismatch errors

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A tip from BETTER

Divide the study period into 10 or 5 zones

optimize in zone 1 and in zone 2 without adjusting

then optimize in zone 2 and run in zone 3 and so on to zone 10

choose within zones best

obtained parameters on all zones 10 - average

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another way

take a long period, run the parameters and average - i.e. don't choose the extremes

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Reason: